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Okay, so they keep talking about "reform"?

Here's what I'll support.

You're here illegally; you've committed no violent crime, other than breaking into our country at this point.

You want to stay here? Fine. Here's the conditions.

1. PROVE you have a job and are paying taxes. If you've been here more than five years, you're paying ALL of those back taxes that you owe plus penalties, the same as ANY of us would have to do, with a rabid IRS breathing down your neck. Every damned dime. And your employer needs to VERIFY that you work for him, and explain WHY he was hiring someone who wasn't paying their taxes, and WHY he wasn't doing Federal Withholding.

2. You register with INS IMMEDIATELY, and you get in line, and WAIT for Citizenship. You are NOT a Citizen for at least fifteen (15) years. That's called Probation, and it's because you broke our laws, gave us the middle finger, and jumped ahead of more deserving people who did it the right way. And be grateful that we're letting you stay.

3. You are NOT entitled to VOTE for at least fifteen (15) years. That's to protect US from YOU - so you don't make a beeline for the polling booth to vote Dems into control for freebies. You GET NO FREEBIES; you ALREADY got a Freebie by being allowed to stay here. If you attempt to vote in our elections in that time frame and are caught, you're gone. Outta here. After time served (see #5 below).

4. You are NOT entitled to Social Security for at LEAST fifteen (15) years. That's because you haven't EARNED it, you paid nothing into it, and that money belongs to the people who HAVE paid into it, and did it the right way, all their lives.

5. If you are convicted of ANY crime within that Probationary time frame, you're GONE - outta here, booted, Deported - AFTER you've served jail time, with a few extra years tacked on for being here illegally to begin with. Consider that the price of coming here illegally to begin with.

I think this is the only "reform" I'd agree with.

OK I’ll play

Each and every individual illegal requires an American Sponsor. Only one sponsor per illegal.

That sponsor is 100% legally responsible for the illegal. Any debts incured are on the sponsor. Any crimes committed are to be paid for/time served by the sponsor.

Health care must be obtained and if not paid by the illegal, then by the sponsor.

We’ll go with your 15 year period. During that time the sponsor agrees to surrender his vote to the potential American in training. To teache this budding patriot the value of the vote.

Any children born are not Americans until such time as they go through standard immigration procedure. Illegals must agree to this as a condition for entry into the program.

Let the Dems put their skin in the game. They go into limbo while the illegal is integrated into society.

That is fair. And fair is what is most important!

That’s one road to go down. I think you’re ideas are reasoned. It still bothers me.

These people jumped in line in front of GOOD HONEST people who RESPECTED our nation enough to COMPLY with it’s laws. They WANTED desperately to come here. They DIDN’T just come.

So if we register people and keep them here, what have we just said to those people who had the character we desire our citizens to have? We just showed them that cheating really works out great, and being a good human being accounts for nothing.

What is the actual affect of saying the illegals can’t be a citizen for 15 years. They couldn’t be anyway for six. That’s when their green card compliance makes them worthy of applying for citizenship.

So what we’re doing is basically delaying the massive problems of the illegal aliens. Instead of chain migration taking place in seven or eight years, we’ll be looking for it in sixteen or seventeen years.

What’s the magnitude of this problem? We’re looking at anywhere from 6 to 12% of our resident populace being made citizens. And then we can expect two to seven people to be brought over through chain migration. This could mean as much as 25 to 33% of our nation’s populace would be recently arrived people from North, Central, and South America.

Is it going to be any better, when this flood of new voters hits us in 19 to 21 years, instead of ten to twelve? Doesn’t it still swamp our boat?

These people need to be rooted out, and booted out.

If you can’t prove you are a legal U. S. citizen, you should get no services in the United States at all. If they are caught, I’d recommend them being sent home immediately. If they are caught a second time, put them in a stockade for six months. Then deport them. Third offense, five years.

Anyone who doesn’t understand why I am saying this, hasn’t been to Southern California in a while. Went to Dodger stadium yesterday. There part of the game presentation is now is Spanish.

Folks, we’re losing our nation. My state is nearly gone, and yours will be too if you don’t wake up and smell the tea leaves.

It’s time to get tough on this subject.

Back of the line, means the line in other nations, people already waiting to come here. Anything else is preferential. I don’t think it’s right to treat the people who played by the rules in this manner.