Posted on 04/26/2014 9:34:47 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) thinks theres still hope for immigration reform this year, but only if Democrats are willing to negotiate.
People have to acknowledge that the Democrats, if they want it passed, have to make more of a compromise, he said in a talk to students at Harvard's Institute of Politics on Friday.
Paul envisions that compromise as some sort of legal status status and a place for people here so that they can come out of the shadows, let them begin paying taxes, let them not be locked up and having them run from the authorities, he said. But he said that status would not include the voting rights that everybody wants.
He said voting rights could come someday, but at this point in the debate the only reform he thinks could pass is a more stripped-down bill.
The Senate did pass a comprehensive reform bill last June with strong bipartisan support, but Paul voted against that bill because, he said on Friday, it doesnt do enough. He said the caps on different kinds of workers were too low to effectively deal with the problem.
We cant have a limit so small that it doesnt encompass what the demand is, Paul said.
Hopes for final passage of a reform package this year have faltered in the House, where Republican leaders have said they have no plans to bring up the Senate bill for a vote, and no alternative comprehensive reform package has emerged. Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) seemed to confirm the slim chance for reform this year during a speech Thursday in his home district where he mocked fellow Republicans for refusing to tackle the issue.
"Here's the attitude: 'Ohhhh. Don't make me do this. Ohhhh. This is too hard,' " he told a meeting of the Middletown Rotary Club.
But Paul charged that the failure to move forward with reform lies partly with Democrats, some of whom he said are content to keep beating up the Republicans on this because its helping the party win the Hispanic vote.
And then there are some responsible people on both sides who want to pass something, he added.
The Kentucky senator concluded: I still think something could pass this year. Some of it more than anything is attitude, that we treat people with dignity and respect and that we acknowledge that we were all immigrants at one point in time, that immigrants are an asset.
12 million more arrive.
Id rather have 300,000 illegals cross the border per year than 1 million.
The illegals are chasing jobs and welfare not citizenship. That is the magnet. JD Hayworth and Rush Limbaugh were explaining this to Bush as far back as 2006.
“Something-—? “ The fella is having trouble making his lips work. As with anyone else who can’t plainly spit out what the bleep it is they actually want to do——I can’t use him.
I’m totally against amnesty.
That said, any legislation that attempts to tax individuals without giving said individuals the right-to-vote goes against everything upon which this country was founded.
I’m dumbfounded any politician could even consider this concept, much less attempt to enact it.
It’s just another example of how far we’ve strayed for our origins.
As if Dems would ever negotiate. Negotiating with them means they want 1000% evil and Rs say “how about only 500% evil?” and the Dems say , “No, 750% evil”, and Rs say “okay”. Then the Dems add the other 250% in the “detials”.
Rand Paul is actually even worse than his father. More duplicitous. At least with Ron Paul you know where he stood.
Singapore and America a have nothing in common, even chewing gum is illegal there.
Singapore has twice the population of Brooklyn, and from 1994 through 1999 executed by hanging, 14 per 100,000 of it’s population, for breaking the law.
Among the death penalty crimes: “Unlawful discharge of firearms, even if no one is injured”
This *is* the old Rand Paul - not the one who reinvented himself as a conservative during 2010 Senate primary.
If you have brains, you learn from the successful.
Stupid people ignore how others became successful.
If you want to live with 93 million unemployed,
12 to 30 million illegals, 50 million on food stamps,
spending a fortune on prisons, judges, cops, lawyers,
bailiffs, court houses...to deal with drug offenders,
crumbling infrastructure & bridges, then ignore Singapore.
LOL, read post 45.
The United States is not going to become a nightmare of oppression and lack of freedom, to emulate the tiny city/state of Singapore.
Besides, the United States has nothing in common with that little 5 million peopled, Asian city/state.
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Paul and McC ought to hold a primary between them for most useless Republican senator. I would be “undecided”.
Singapore has the most concentration of rich people on earth. 1 our of every 6 people is worth over a million US $$.
But keep ignoring why why some countries do better. Reminds me of the ostrich syndrome. There is no lack of freedom there except for criminals and vandals. Nobody ever stopped me while I was on vacation. Some of the tastiest and best food I have ever eaten. Public transportation makes ours look like 3rd world.
Why has no one knocked the shit out of Boner? He’s just a smart ass.
I would bet that the senate bill will be brought up for a vote in the house and pass right after the elections in November.
Rand Paul if just one example of why we should be very leery of jumping on anyone’s bandwagon.
Are you insane? You keep ranting about something that makes no sense.
The United States is not Singapore, and never will be, and never was, nor ever could be, we wouldn’t even allow the importation of your evil version of law and lack of freedom.
Do you understand that a tiny oriental country with 5 million people is like a different planet compared to the United States?
Trying to compare United States problems with a tiny oriental city/state, or Vatican city, or Iceland, is silly.
Try to find another way to push your pro-immigration politics.
You show you lack of world knowledge again. There are 175 or so countries in the United Nations. Most of them are small, under 10 million. And most of them are a basket case economically. Vatican city is dirty, with outdated infrastructure. I seen it with my own eyes. I have probably visited more countries than your age.
Singapore was not rich while the British ruled it as a colony. It had serious drug problems. Then they took a different path. They eliminated government benefits to working age adults! There is no welfare for those, zilch, zero, nada! There is no entitlements! Singapore spends tax collected on infrastructure to promote industrial growth. Corporate taxes are lower than other industrial countries. That is one reason illegal immigrants do not sneak in because there are no freebies unlike Unite States to illegals.
And they control illegal immigration via 2 year work permits. Employers can not hire foreigners without a valid work-permit.
US policies are diametrically opposite. We give free medical benefits, free k-12 education and lunches, food stamps, and other benefits to illegals. It has nothing to do with size of a country. It has everything to do with insane policies. Your English comprehension is very shallow because I am diametrically opposite of promoting unwanted illegal immigration. I have posted as such hundreds of times. I only want over funded and over educated immigrants.
You are back in ignore. I am tired of explaining simple facts to you.
“Just shouting AMNESTY is a pathetic and ignorant response to immigration reform.”
New York- yeah, you live right next to the border and really understand what massive illegal immigration does. Idiot.
Gee, you went to Singapore and now everything in your life has to be about Singapore.
Including America and Mexican immigration.
Amnesty plus is still amnesty. Paul is a fraud.
This obviously is the real Rand Paul.
Yup.
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