Posted on 04/24/2014 1:46:38 PM PDT by servo1969
Full title- "SEAN HANNITY Responds to Cliven Bundy’s “Beyond Repugnant, Beyond Despicable” Racist Comments (Video)"
The New York Times broke the story today about Cliven Bundy’s racist comments to supporters during one his recent rallies. Bundy said “the negro” would be better under slavery than sitting collecting welfare “in front of the government house.”
This afternoon Sean Hannity responded to Bundy’s comments on his radio show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-m3JW-eK3k
Rancher Cliven Bundy decided to lecture his supporters on slavery and the “negro” on Saturday. Media Matters posted the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbnRnhrNFEY
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, April 24, 2014, 3:30 PM
The New York Times broke the story today about Cliven Bundy’s racist comments to supporters during one his recent rallies. Bundy said “the negro” would be better under slavery than sitting collecting welfare “in front of the government house.”
This afternoon Sean Hannity responded to Bundy’s comments on his radio show:
Rancher Cliven Bundy decided to lecture his supporters on slavery and the “negro” on Saturday. Media Matters posted the video:
Dude?
The Washington Post posted his comments:
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
Got a comment on Hannity’s response, or do you just want to just slander FReepers as rainbow coalition members?
Yup, the professional race hustlers and poverty pimps smell blood in the water. There will now be a media feeding frenzy where the mainstream didn’t want to wade in before. Race hustling is big business in liberal land. When the hustlers and race pimps start circling, most conservative talkers run quick for cover. We’re praying the Lord comes down on the side of Liberty and freedom vs big government, godless socialism and enslavement.
Well it is not your problem is it? You sure seemed to be concerned about a lot of this for someone that thinks every thing he did is wrong. Are you a concern troll?
I don't know what you are trying to lie about, but that isn't true.
One can believe that fedgov overreach has attained scary proportions, that it is militarized far beyond what any citizen should reasonably countenance, acting in an unconstitutional manner, is in dire need of having a stand taken against some of it’s actions by us and yet believe, and have believed from the start, that Mr. Bundy and his particular set of facts and circumstances do not make the best case in terms of being a symbol or the point at which to fight.
hell, yeah, BLM is acting crazy. But some honest conservatives have been saying that this is not the case to take to the media. Even the Founding Fathers knew when to pick their battles. Just a cranky .02
SO let's run down a comparison.
Imagine a society in which there is full employment. In which everyone learns some sort of trade, no matter how humble. You don't get paid for your work in cash, but housing, basic clothing, and rudimentary medical care are provided. After all, you are a person of value. Even transportation to and from work is arranged. You might, under some circumstances, be transferred to another work area, and your family might not be able to follow. Not all supervisors will treat you the same, but, (back to being a valuable individual), if there is someone else around to do the most dangerous work, chances are very good you will be spared those tasks. You will not be asked to take up arms in conflict, and under the best of circumstances, you may spend your entire life in the same area, surrounded by family, although there are no guarantees.
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Keep in mind that the above scenario was not the case for everyone; that many did not live or work under those conditions, that some even were the supervisors, that some were owners. There were those who, by virtue of birth, hard work, exceptional deeds, or other conditions lived quite differently, and some quite well.
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Next scenario:
Housing, food, and other amenities are provided, provided the family is broken up. No father may remain within the walls, or the allotments of food and other amenities, including housing are reduced or eliminated.
Children learn no trade, and are diminished for attempting to learn either a trade or profession in many circumstances. Instead, since economic honesty is punished and deceit rewarded, many are given to crime, to work or activities which create a profit off the books, and they are their own worst enemy, killing more of their own than any other group.
Idleness leads to other problems besides criminal acts, including drug use, prostitution, and a wide range of felonious careers. Many who fall to this mindset have given up hope of better.
Some work at gainful employ, some strive to be educated, but few of these are revered in the dependent community, and then only for concessions they can get for the rest of the dependent population.
Families become strictly matrilineal, because paternal identities are thinly established and relationships hindered or discouraged by the provider of stuff.
Now, again, not all live this way. Many have escaped that bondage through virtue of birth, by hard work or exceptional deeds, and some of those who live quite well, complete with the familial ties which many still prize. There are those who live elite lives, through their own effort, and those who live thus by promising those who await their stuff more stuff.
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I do not seek to offend. That is not my goal.
Examine alternatives, the former, of course is slavery. Not all were slaves (some were even owners), and being valuable in themselves, not all slaves were mistreated--any more than someone would trash their new car or tractor. Some slaves worked hand in hand with the owners families, and I know of at least one instance where they, with permission and blessing, took the family name as a surname upon manumission. That is not the Harriet Beecher Stowe Abolitionist Novel version, but reality.
Yes, there were some evil people who owned slaves, but that was far from a universal condition.
Compare and contrast to life on the Government teat, replete with regulations and rules, among which are the mandatory destruction of the family, and constraints on what can be earned--constraints which foster an environment of deceit and fraud. This is a pervasive system, insidious in its structure where even the slightest progress toward freedom from it is decried by those who continue on it, punished by its overseers withholding of food, housing, medical care, or other benefits should one make too much progress, sanctions above and beyond the progress one might make toward achieving those ends.
Not only is there the official sanction, but those in the community will often harass, demean, and even attack those who attempt to free themselves.
Neither is freedom. The only difference is that in one the chains of bondage were imposed by captors a continent away or acquired at birth, in the other, those chains were willingly, if grudgingly at first, assumed, or acquired at birth. Both are slavery. But one universally requires the destruction of the family and fosters deceit and fraud and other crime, and we (the "free") all pay at gunpoint to provide it.
When you look at it that way, maybe Cliven Bundy has a point.
Liberals use racism and political correctness like a baseball bat and we let them do it. The issues are the same, this is not a race issue. I do not know Bundy or the details of his battle, so it is not Bundy that I support- it is the government actions that I don’t support and those are the same.
I see your point and I was giving Cliven Bundy plenty of latitude, even with his latest remarks about blacks. But he lost me when he rhapsodized just like a leftist about the criminal invaders:
You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they are here and they are people. And I’ve worked side by side with a lot of them. Don’t tell me they don’t work and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. We need to have those people join us and be with us, not not come to our party.
Sounds to me like his pushing amnesty and, if so, this is where he crossed the Rubicon. While I still support the principle of his cause against the government thugs, as a person, Bundy has lost my support with this latest statement of his.
I was listening to WIND-AM in Chicago this morning and got some hope from what they discussed that maybe conservatives are starting to call the Left on its own racism. Juan Williams’ son, who is a press secretary with the RNC, said he had gotten a lot of abuse because of his own beliefs. But the other one was more significant. Neil Steinberg of the Sun-Times wrote a piece in which he likened blacks supporting the Republicans to Jews who collaborated with the Nazis. I don’t know if this has gotten any coverage outside of Chicago, but some Jews here criticized him for trivializing the Holocaust. I can understand their point of view, but what I think Steinberg was doing in making the comparison was criticizing “the nigras have escaped the plantation.” But, of course, he couldn’t exactly say that. I’d like to see someone hit him from that angle.
Dear Heavenly Father,
Your message to us about freedom in Christ is that we shall be “free indeed.” Our prayer is simple: Please keep us free. Help us in our day to throw off the chains of anyone who would attempt to enslave us in any way. In this high regard for freedom, we pray for Your will to be made evident in Mr. Clive Bundy’s life, but more than that, Lord, we pray for guidance in restoring this nation and selecting righteous leaders. Strengthen us to stand in the gap and defend our nation from all who would rob us of our freedom. We pray in the name of Jesus Christ; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Amen.
The only difference was that he did not use the word slavery or negro.
The comment and I will make it short and sweet, simply stated that blacks were a lot happier prior to welfare and other government so called help.
That was the gist of what Bundy said as well.
That is what I referred to when I used the term “similar”.
Amen!
Amen.
well stated!
Actually it still happens today. Coincidentally, in the same regions where blacks were sold before.
And yes, Hollywood has redefined it. That is not to deny that atrocities were committed, but atrocities were not the norm and Bundy understands that.
Unfortunately you don't, but that is not a crime..however it should temper your criticism somewhat.
Although Bundy said it clumsily, and although he’d been better off to obey the thought police, I don’t see that much wrong with his opinion on this subject. Are the blacks better off being owned by the government? Nope.
They don’t seem to see what the democrat party and the left are doing to them. Where I live, there are 2 black churches near by. The parking lot is full every Sunday... 3 services. But they vote democrat. I can’t figure out how so many can be so willingly used by the left. I can’t come up with a good reason for this kind of thinking.
We must pray and get our churches and Christian friends to pray.
If this isn’t Valley Forge, then Valley Forge is approaching.
LOL!
We will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ, and each of us will answer for our sins. Those who have killed their own children will stand before God and account for that.
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
“Are the blacks better off being owned by the government? Nope.”
Is anybody? Nope.
So why even mention race? He could have made the same point without even bringing race into it at all.
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