Posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604
After Bundy's overtly racist remarks, let's see how far politicians run away from him.
The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy—the Nevada rancher who, instead of paying decades of overdue grazing fees, met the Bureau of Land management with guns and a small militia—saying this:
"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do.
"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" he asked. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."
Expect every politician to back away from the issue.
"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Sen. Rand Paul said in a statement Thursday morning.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...
Or habits pasted down from parents.
Woof Dawg Brother SZonian!!
Ok, so I listened to the video. He did in fact say it - as part of a longer speech decrying government dependency and bureaucracy.
It’s been taken way out of context, as usual - but it still changes nothing. He is entitled to his opinion, no matter what - as we ALL are.
We do not run from people who need us. And the man will need EVERY ounce and bit of support from the vultures that will be circling.
This guy is an American. He’s one of us. And he’s under assault.
Run away? I think not.
Just for the record, I disagree with Mr. Bundy that blacks were better off as slaves. For one thing, most blacks are NOT like the ones he described. Yes. There are some blacks today who have nearly traded one plantation for another, but many other blacks are independent, successful, and moral. One could, in fact, point to many able bodied white families who live in similar dependency on the government.
I also note that Mr. Bundy did NOT say he wanted to enslave blacks or force them to pick cotton. He made an observation, a comparison. That doesn’t mean he supports either slavery or welfare dependency. I’ll go so far to say his implication is that neither (slavery or government dependency) are good, and in some ways he’s right that black culture today is more destructive for black families (in general).
I think his comments were also foolish in that we all know the media loves to find something like that to use against anyone who opposes our burgeoning government. Mr. Bundy essentially handed his enemies the ammunition they will use to slaughter him. What possible good could ever come from saying anything like that to a reporter? None at all!
That sounds about right. But they won’t retract the story until after the election.
“...Bundy’s racism does not threaten anyone. ...”
He’s not being “racist”. He was expressing his opinion on how people act when they’re dependent on someone else.
When people use the language that the left creates, it only helps them succeed.
I don’t know if Bundy said these things, although it seems likely. His legal theory that the US government doesn’t own land is also a terrible legal argument. But the point is the gross overreach by the federal government in response - the very idea that the BLM has its own SWAT team - and the highly selective enforcement of the laws.
As long as human trespassers (illegals) are ignored, how do we justify sending helicopters in after cows who are trespassing? Which is worse: making citizens of criminals, or cows eating grass? And who wants to live in a society where every alphabet agency has its own SWAT team?
Good find! Wish everyone on this thread could see this.
It still doesn’t change the fact that his opinion on welfare has nothing do with the Federal land grab issue.
Recording link on post 161
I agree wholeheartedly. I couldn’t listen to the whole video (too much to do) but listened to half of it.
Definitely out of context. But now it’s out there.
The fact here is that he did say it. So many (everywhere) are emotionally reacting to this (rightly, imho) and falling for the trap the NYT laid by not posting the video along with their ‘quote’.
This is the ‘news’ the MSM was hoping for. They baited him and they got it. Now they’ll report it ad nauseam.
The Bundy family should have known better than to grant an interview with anyone with NYT credentials (if they presented them honestly...big IF).
Thanks for the link to the video.
Clayton Williams lost the Texas Governor’s race to “Ma” Richards in the same fashion, talking too much with reporters around.
A little suspect........
“The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy—the Nevada rancher who, instead of paying decades of overdue grazing fees, met the Bureau of Land management with guns and a small militia—saying this:”
The New York Times has “OVERHEARD”? Hmmmm
“...So now, along with being called an Uncle Tom, Sellout, Oreo, House Negro, and White Man’s Porch Monkey, I am also just like Jews who were Nazi collaborators.
Hmm, funny thing — that would put black conservative Republicans like me in the same category as George Soros – a Hungarian Jew who posed as a Christian and helped confiscate property from Jews being shipping out to concentration camps. And now he funds the liberal progressive socialist movement we call the Democrat party...”
Damn, ya gotta love LtC Alan West...
I dearly wish he would run for President...
Will check it out (the recording)
You are taking it too literally and out of context. This is what he allegedly said, "I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do."
"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" he asked. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."
There’s nothing more to be said than that to explain it’s racial overtones. You may interpret it as you have, but it’s also perfectly reasonable to interpret it as saying, “black people were too stupid to pick cotton, to earn a decent living for themselves, so now they turn to crime to do so and abort babies that cost too much”.
It is only "perfectly reasonable" to a fool or a race baiter.
That’s another, perfectly valid interpretation of the phrase in question and it’s racist.
It is only racist to racists.
Certainly not! Why, why, the nerve! lol
I remember that well. I had been working on his campaign.
It’s heresay. Unless it is on recording. If there is a recording, he’s an idiot who will pay dearly in support.
The video shows an old rancher inartfully trying to make sense of today’s culture.
Good luck trying to demonize him.
Hardly justifies shooting his cattle and threatening his family.
Agreed.
Frankly, I was searching the web for Bundy family denials about the statement and finally ended up on their Facebook page. I never would have found it if someone else hadn’t posted it there.
Anyone can find it there if they spend 5-10 minutes browsing the comments (at least until more comments get posted; then it might take a while longer).
Unfortunately, there’s already a graphic making the social media rounds with that ‘out of context’ quote. I’ll have to watch the rest of that interview later when I have the time (gotta get to work).
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