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Cliven Bundy Just Ruined His Cause
National Journal ^ | 04/24/2014 | Brian Resnick

Posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604

After Bundy's overtly racist remarks, let's see how far politicians run away from him.

The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy—the Nevada rancher who, instead of paying decades of overdue grazing fees, met the Bureau of Land management with guns and a small militia—saying this:

"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do.

"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" he asked. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

Expect every politician to back away from the issue.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Sen. Rand Paul said in a statement Thursday morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyracist; bundyranch; clivenbundy; harryreid; hearsay; jumpedtheshark; nevada; newyorktimesbs; racist; randpaul
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1 posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I read that. Ugh. I wonder if there is more to it, or if Bundy will claim he did not make those statements.


2 posted on 04/24/2014 7:40:50 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Rusty0604

Sometimes it is important to be focussed on ONE issue and to keep your mouth shut on others.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 7:41:41 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Rusty0604

Response coming from Harry Reid in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...


4 posted on 04/24/2014 7:42:45 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Rusty0604

The left confuses message and messenger a lot


5 posted on 04/24/2014 7:43:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Rusty0604
Home of the Free my ass.

"I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it." What a joke.

Run & hide everyone. The leftist media win after all.

6 posted on 04/24/2014 7:43:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Rusty0604

I wouldn’t word it that way, but I’ve basically articulated the same point. He’s basically saying that as bad as slavery was, are they better off now in the projects than they were on the plantation?

This is not an endorsement of the plantation. Rather, it is a condemnation of the welfare state.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 7:43:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Rusty0604

Like Harry Reid said...

“Something will happen...”

“...The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy...”

Really? How?

Smear machine cranks up.


8 posted on 04/24/2014 7:43:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: cuban leaf

There are better ways to make the point.


9 posted on 04/24/2014 7:45:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rusty0604

Has there been confirmation from any other source that Bundy actually made these remarks?


10 posted on 04/24/2014 7:45:33 AM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: Rusty0604

But still, guys like Sharpton say things that are ten times more outrageous than what Bundy said, and they get a pass.


11 posted on 04/24/2014 7:46:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rusty0604

I’ve never been a fan of this guy... but I’m far more opposed to the tactics used by the imperial federal government.

He needs to stay on subject matter that he’s familiar with... ranching.


12 posted on 04/24/2014 7:46:45 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Rusty0604

Actually it sounds like what Bundy said if he even said it is factually correct. Just politically incorrect. I don’t read that as racist.

I think what Mr. Bundy meant was that picking cotton is preferable to sitting around not working and living off the govt handout.


13 posted on 04/24/2014 7:47:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: dfwgator

REVERUNT Al is a man of the cloth!.....


14 posted on 04/24/2014 7:47:45 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Ladysforest

On the other hand, if he did make those comments, does that mean he doesn’t deserve justice for his ranch?

That means any time someone has a legal problem with the federal gov’t, liberasl can dig up some “racist” or “homophobic” dirt on them and they lose all rights?


15 posted on 04/24/2014 7:47:54 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

“The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy”

Really?


16 posted on 04/24/2014 7:47:56 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: dfwgator

There are better ways to make the point.


I agree. That was my point.

I confess that it would be interesting if his comments have the opposite effect of what everybody is expecting. I compare him to the kid who said the emperor has no clothes.

Let’s see how this plays out. The debate will be interesting.


17 posted on 04/24/2014 7:48:30 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

I agree. Being a slave is horrible. Living in a project where one is thoroughly dependent on government and subject to high crime is not much better. It’s trading one form of slavery for another. Comparing the two doesn’t mean I think either one is good.


18 posted on 04/24/2014 7:48:44 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (We can't have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it!)
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To: Rusty0604

I guess, if he really said it, he could have left out the bit about picking cotton, but otherwise, he’s spot on. Today, Black’s are only “disadvantaged” by their own life’s choices. They need to emulate Dr. Ben Carson, not the crooked Blacks that run for political office so they can steal from the rest of us.


19 posted on 04/24/2014 7:48:48 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Rusty0604

Cliven Bundy said that about Negroes when he met with the BLM did he? That’s an odd topic of discussion if they were there to remove his cattle. Was it recorded by anyone because I haven’t seen or heard anything about this online but it sure would be a way to kill his reputation with the minorites if it were true. Let’s say it’s not the truth and is just a fabrication put out by the MSM or a liberal news source to damage his reputation. Now how would it look. But let’s say its true. Did he lie about what he saw? If not then it’s just an observation and inflammatory to those who are sensitive to the truth. Basically it amounts to committing a criminal action in the public PC court which is controlled by the MSM.


20 posted on 04/24/2014 7:49:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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