Posted on 04/17/2014 11:35:37 AM PDT by SkyPilot
U2 frontman Bono talks about his faith and answers the question "Who is Jesus?" in the video below. Click play to watch.
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Have a blessed Easter. May God's grace be with you.
He is risen indeed.
In fact, the Greek (iesous) is pretty close to the English “Jesus.” If an English speaker heard someone talking about Jesus in the Greek of the Gospels, chances are he would pick up on the name.
If calling Jesus Yeshua were so important then why are our gospels in Greek?
Greek tells the world, loud and clear, that Jesus is for everybody.
He’s risen and risen in our hearts too. Those who would try to keep Him down with some human methodology find themselves quite mistaken.
It is because of that new spirit that we begin to catch on to what He is about, personally, and begin to obey from the heart, not the head.
By the way, Happy Easter everyone. He is Risen.
Agree. My own theory is that Paul wanted to reach a larger audience, and his mission was to the Gentile world, hence he wrote in the then more "universal" language of Greek. Christ commissioned that the Gospel be preached to the entire world. God said the world is His. But as you said, atomizing the pronunciation or other aspects take us away from Grace.
Yes, He is. Happy Easter.
Very well said.
Christ was “despised and rejected”. Perhaps God allowed the Anglicized “mistake” into the Bible for a reason after all, as his own twist against a rabbinical curse? Or perhaps you are simply wrong in your assertions? Joshua would be fine with me,Yeshua also...very PC and ethnic sounding. I could call him Emmanuel or perhaps “God with us”...a little wordy but still another name for Jesus.
In short I'd be a little less concerned about the names of God and more about the heart of love He has extended towards all men, that is to say Emmanuel!
Your favorite, Son of Man, is a great comfort to me.
I’ve struggled a lot (and still do) in understanding how He could love a person like me. I look to Him as the Son of Man to try to understand it better.
It’s fascinating that those so many wonderful names of His seem to cover every concern or question a believer would have.
So what you believe is that all the people who actually lived there, spoke the language, knew the political situation, met Jesus, talked with him, listened to his words, traveled at his side, ate with him, gave their money to him (or gave it up to be with him), and knew him personally... were all completely misguided as to his intentions.
Why would this be? There can be only 3 explanations that I can think of.
1. He was deliberately misleading them as to his intentions.
2. He tried to explain but was terrible at making himself understood.
3. His followers were mostly the village idiots that he picked up on his travels.
There it is. Stop right there. As the mechanic would say, "There's your problem."
It's not that none of this was "known" until after the Resurrection, it's that no one interpreted it that way until after the Resurrection. And then, only people determined to still consider Jesus the Messiah would interpret it that way. The reason Jews do not consider Jesus the Messiah is because that is not what the Messiah was sent to do, as far as THEY understood it.
Do you understand? As far as THEY understood it (and do to this day), the Messiah was sent to free Israel from foreign rule.
Before we go any further, do you understand what I am saying? I'm not even trying to get into whether you think the Jews are right or wrong (although it's rather amusing for non-Jews to say that Jews were wrong about their own hopes and dreams for their own nation and their own prophecies about how it would come about.)
Just going by what you said right there, these celebrations and feasts were NOT INTERPRETED YOUR WAY UNTIL AFTER JESUS DIED. Right?
And these original Hebrew and Aramaic transcripts are preserved where? Which museum? Who has them now?
Whats the apparent problem with the passage?
There's no mention of the Messiah. This all predates the establishment of Israel.
No, I'm not looking for after-the-fact explanations of what God must have been up to. I'm looking for Old Testament references to the Messiah as the Jews understood him. Not as you understand him today. Since you think something completely different from what the Jews of the time thought, to you, EVERYTHING references the Messiah.
But that's in hindsight.
I want to know what the Jews thought the Messiah was, specifically before Jesus lived.
http://christianity.about.com/od/biblefactsandlists/a/Prophecies-Jesus.htm
44 Prophecies of the Messiah fulfilled in Jesus Christ
That's right! They also thought that because they had been taught that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Jesus was from Nazareth, but by some strange quirk of fate, his pregnant mother was taken from one city to another to participate in a census (very odd way to do a census). They were also taught that the Messiah would be descended from David (which Jesus was on his mother's side) but could not be descended from Solomon (which he was on his father's side, which would disqualify him but for the very lucky circumstance that his father wasn't his real father but that, like a Greek hero, he was descended directly from God. Another very convincing element that would mislead Jews into thinking Jesus came to fulfill their prophecy.)
And if that was not at ALL what he came to do, why did he meet the criteria so exactly? When it had NOTHING TO DO with what he was really there for? Hm...
The disciples had to be taught by Christ that he was coming not to set up a powerful political kingdom, instead he was establishing God's eternal kingdom.
Out of curiosity (and I'm not setting you up, I really don't know the answer to this one) which of his followers understood completely, before the crucifixion, what Jesus was really there for?
But I'm not asking how they thought they were going to get into Heaven. I'm asking what they thought the Messiah would do. It's clear from the Old Testament prophecies that they thought the Messiah would save Israel from foreign rule and invasion.
Hasn't happened yet, though, has it?
Then why, in the very same chapter of John, did Jesus tell Jews in the temple of Jerusalem that he WAS the son of God? He said it to them, just not to Pilates.
John 10:17-18 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."
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