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WW3? Drudge loses it.

Posted on 04/16/2014 1:40:46 PM PDT by dangus

The Drudge Report always has its fun with misuse of images. But World War III is no laughing matter. In an attempt to paint Russia as hurtling us towards World War III, Drudge shows a picture of troops marching through the Ukraine, wearing Soviet-era uniforms. But the picture is out of context.

The picture is, in fact, from Odessa. Yes, there are significant numbers of Russophones. Yes, many of them may favor secession. Yes, some of the secessionists may have the same kind of romanticism for the Soviets that their Ukrainian neighbors have for the Nazi Banderites. But that's not what this picture shows.

This is a re-enactment of the liberation of Odessa from the Germans during WWII. Despite the popularity in some extremist corners of the Nazi-aligned Banderites, who exterminated a population of 80,000 Poles in one city alone, the Ukraine has always celebrated the day. Those are the uniforms worn by the people who fought off the Nazis during "the Great Patriotic War." The Soviet Union wasn't just Russia: From Trotsky to Brezhnev to Gorbachev, many Soviets were Ukrainians. And despite the horrors of communism, the Ukrainians have annually celebrated those who fought against the Nazis.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: bhorussia; dramaqueen; drudge; ukraine; ww3
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To: Jim Robinson

Best comment on the true reality I have seen yet. And I am not schmoozing you because this is your site.

I totally agree! If people fail to get what you are saying, they fail to understand the current confusion.


41 posted on 04/16/2014 2:40:09 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Joe Miner
call me when you enlist, Russia taking over all Europe and kicking the Muslimes out would be a good thing.

Considering that Muslims are the fastest growing population in Russia, and Putin's inner circle is replete with Muslims, including Vladislav Surkov and Ramzan Kadyrov, that possibility is remote. Putin has aided and abetted Iran's nuclear program. Unless you think Iranians aren't Muslims, that pokes a big hole in the theory about Putin being a Defender of Christendom. Like the empire-building Tsars and General Secretaries before him, Putin hasn't a sectarian bone in his body. Emperors must embrace their subjects. If Russia were majority Muslim, Putin would convert.

42 posted on 04/16/2014 2:42:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dforest

Thanks. and Obama is one of them. A Godless Marxist/fascist liberty-hating predator.


43 posted on 04/16/2014 2:43:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: dangus
"They live in pitiful hovels which they set up far apart from one another, but, as a general thing, every man is constantly changing his place of abode. When they enter battle, the majority of them go against their enemy on foot carrying little shields and javelins in their hands, but they never wear corselets. Indeed, some of them do not wear even a shirt or a cloak, but gathering their trews up as far as to their private parts they enter into battle with their opponents. And both the two peoples have also the same language, an utterly barbarous tongue. Nay further, they do not differ at all from one another in appearance. For they are all exceptionally tall and stalwart men, while their bodies and hair are neither very fair or blond, nor indeed do they incline entirely to the dark type, but they are all slightly ruddy in color. And they live a hard life, giving no heed to bodily comforts ...".

44 posted on 04/16/2014 2:45:06 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Siegfried X

Your source doesn’t back up your assertion. Meanwhile, the U.S. asserts the right to intervene anywhere in the world that it damn-well pleases, overthrowing the governments of Egypt, Libya and Ukraine (and, failingly, Syria).

Here’s a proposed peace settlement: Let the poll be taken on May 8. No-one born in Russia, even if they moved there during the Soviet era, can vote. Let the international poll-watchers in. Obey the results. (Then let Texas vote to secede from the Obamanation.)


45 posted on 04/16/2014 2:46:39 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Any reason you’re quoting a 5th-century description of the Protoslavs?


46 posted on 04/16/2014 2:48:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Any reason you’re quoting a 5th-century description of the Protoslavs?


47 posted on 04/16/2014 2:48:51 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Joe Miner

Don’t worry about it, if there is an impending WW, none of us will be enlisting, because we will,all be drafted. :)


48 posted on 04/16/2014 2:50:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jim Robinson

Are you calling the Russians Godless? Or just the Banderites and the neo-Leninists? If you refer to the latter, of course anyone must agree with you. If you refer to the former, I am deeply puzzled at how you could reach that conclusion; the Russians are far more likely to believe in God than most Western European nations.


49 posted on 04/16/2014 2:53:06 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Zhang Fei

You know more than me, I want dead Muslimes, I will never convert to their perverted view.


50 posted on 04/16/2014 2:56:33 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: dangus

You don’t want to know who the people that will supposedly be responsible for WW3, originated from??


51 posted on 04/16/2014 2:56:35 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Peter ODonnell

Elites aren’t wanting a nuke war on large scale, just enough to scare into submission to police state, or a given war, etc.

Safest place is near their favorite places, IMHO.


52 posted on 04/16/2014 2:57:39 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: dangus

I, for one, truly appreciate the history lesson.


53 posted on 04/16/2014 2:58:03 PM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: dangus

Lenin, Stalin, Marxists, etc.


54 posted on 04/16/2014 2:58:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: dangus

Btw, the communists tried to kill off free religion, the church, belief in God, etc, but they failed. Even after years of communist oppression, God lived on in the hearts of the Russian people.


55 posted on 04/16/2014 3:02:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It isn’t only the Ukraine. Today Transdniestr, a Russian-speaking section of Moldavia, declared itself independent and asked for UN recognition.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145196/posts

Putin is a former KGB operative who clearly has been working in this direction ever since he took power, looking to put the Soviet Union back together again.


56 posted on 04/16/2014 3:03:17 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Zhang Fei

Muslims have the highest birth rate in Russia, but they are being converted to Christianity by the millions: Although 14% of Russians are labelled “Muslim” by Muslim sources, only 6% identify themselves as Muslim, an “infidelity” rate of nearly 60%. Two million (about 1.6%) of Russians officially converted from Islam to Russian Orthodoxy in the past ten years.

83% of Russians profess a faith in the Russian Orthodox Church, up from 30% just 15 years ago. There’s also about 1 million Old Believers (a purist schism of the ROC), a million Catholics, a million Protestants, and several hundred thousand Restorationist Christians.

(These are all according to official Russian surveys, except the estimate by Muslims, which is based on Russian demographics via Muslims.)


57 posted on 04/16/2014 3:05:17 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

This “World War III” article and discussion is about Putin’s goal:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3145142/posts


58 posted on 04/16/2014 3:06:36 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Siegfried X

Transdniestr seceded from Moldavia back in the 1990s. But thanks for playing along.


59 posted on 04/16/2014 3:06:45 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
Muslims have the highest birth rate in Russia, but they are being converted to Christianity by the millions: Although 14% of Russians are labelled “Muslim” by Muslim sources, only 6% identify themselves as Muslim, an “infidelity” rate of nearly 60%. Two million (about 1.6%) of Russians officially converted from Islam to Russian Orthodoxy in the past ten years. 83% of Russians profess a faith in the Russian Orthodox Church, up from 30% just 15 years ago. There’s also about 1 million Old Believers (a purist schism of the ROC), a million Catholics, a million Protestants, and several hundred thousand Restorationist Christians. (These are all according to official Russian surveys, except the estimate by Muslims, which is based on Russian demographics via Muslims.)

Lots of different surveys out there. Here's one quoted by Wikipedia:

Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism are Russia's traditional religions, and are all legally a part of Russia's "historical heritage".[246] In August 2012 the first-ever sociological survey and mapping of religious adherents in Russia based on self-identification was published, with data on 79 out of 83 of the federal subjects of Russia.[244][247][248] Out of a population of 142,800,000 the survey found that 58,800,000 or 41% are Russian Orthodox, 9,400,000 or 6.5% are Muslims (including Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, and a majority of unaffiliated Muslims), 5,900,000 or 4.1% are unaffiliated Christians, 2,100,000 or 1.5% adhere to other Orthodox Churches (including Ukrainian, Georgian, Armenian and other churches), 1,700,000 or 1.2% are Pagans (including Rodnovery, Etseg Din, Caucasian Neopaganism and Uralic Neopaganism) or Tengrists (Turco-Mongol shamanic religions and new religions), 700,000 or 0.5% are Buddhists (mostly Vajrayana), 400,000 or 0.2% are Orthodox Old Believers, 300,000 or 0.2% are Protestants, 140,000 are Catholics, 140,000 are Jews.[244][245] The Bahá'í Faith in Russia (Вера Бахаи), according to Association of Religion Data Archives was estimated at about 18,990 in 2005.[249] The remaining population is made up of 36,000,000 or 25% "spiritual but not religious" people, 18,600,000 or 13% atheist and non-religious people and 7,900,000 people or 5.5% of the total population who have deemed themselves "undecided".[244][245]

60 posted on 04/16/2014 3:14:41 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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