Dick Morris: Democrats Conspiring to Rig Electoral College, Law Passed in 9 States So Far

Newsmax ^ | 04/16/2014 | Dick Morris

[SeekAndFind]

A plan, now stealthily making its way through state legislatures with astonishing speed, would junk the Electoral College and award the presidency to the winner of the popular vote.

The plan involves an Interstate Compact where states would commit to select electors pledged to vote for the national popular vote winner regardless of how their own state voted. When enough states pass this law -- sufficient to cast the Electoral College's majority 270 votes -- it will take effect.

The Electoral College will become a vestigial anachronism.

So far, nine states and the District of Columbia -- casting 136 electoral votes -- have joined moving half way to the 270 needed to put the compact into effect. The ratifying states are: Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, Hawaii, Washington, Massachusetts, DC, Vermont, California, and Rhode Island.

Both houses in New York have passed it and its on Governor Cuomo’s desk.

And, it has already passed one house in: Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Oregon. These states, plus New York represent 107 votes. Combined with the others they are up to 242 votes . They need 270.

Who is pushing this?

All of those ratifying voted for Obama as did eight of the 10 one-house states.

The Movement is funded, in part, by the Center for Voting and Democracy, a George Soros-funded election group.

[BigEdLB]

We are asking for BIG trouble. I am not unsympathetic to the district system like what is in NE and ME, but this is a prescription for a Second Civil War, due to the vote fraud rampant in the large cities in a very close election....

[Gen.Blather]

” The flyover folks (read: the better armed Americans) won’t stand for this crap.”

With the exception of the American revolution, all revolts have been the left against the government. The right is not likely to start a revolt. I don’t see anybody I know, all of whom are armed to the teeth, starting a shooting war. Who, exactly would you target? Your local deputy sheriffs? The local politicians? We have no reach to get at the people who are at fault and the fault is wide-spread and fairly thin.

[RIghtwardHo]

Time to get rid of the EC. It is anathema to Democracy.

[Above My Pay Grade]

>>>If in effect it will break up the first time a Republican wins the popular vote<<<

If this passes no Republican will ever win the popular vote again. There will be MASSIVE voter fraud in Democrat controlled states and in all large cities, controlled by Democrats.

Why do you think the same people pushing this are opposed to Voter ID laws?

If this goes into effect it will lead to CWII, which might not be such a bad thing, considering how doomed this nation seems to be right now.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Time to get rid of the EC. It is anathema to Democracy.

Are you serious?

[cynwoody]

No, we should not move to a popular vote system. The Electoral College needs to be preserved. It is the most brilliant manner of choosing an executive yet devised.

It could be improved by getting rid of the electors and awarding votes by congressional district. One vote per congressional district carried plus two more for carrying the majority of a state's districts or winning the state's popular vote if there's a tie in the by-district tally.

That would eliminate the faithless elector problem.

More important, it would firewall electoral fraud and reduce the influence of urban cesspools. Consider Indiana. Once the 'Rats mange to stuff in enough fraudulent votes to steal Districts 1 and 7, turning out additional deceased Gary and Indianapolis residents wouldn't help them steal the state. Instead, the other seven districts would go GOP, resulting in 7+2=9 electoral votes for the GOP and 2 for the 'Rats. In the current system, if they can stuff enough votes in Districts 1 and 7 to swing the state's popular vote, they get all 11 electoral votes and screw the farmers out in their corn fields!

[Pearls Before Swine]

I hope I never have to find out how a liberal majority Court would rule on this.

[Hatteras]

"I have a sick feeling that the communist Democrats will win all future elections."

I had that sick feeling when they started electronic voting and finding out the machines were being built by the Chinese...

[cotton1706]

“It could be improved by getting rid of the electors and awarding votes by congressional district. One vote per congressional district carried plus two more for carrying the majority of a state’s districts or winning the state’s popular vote if there’s a tie in the by-district tally.”

Right. I agree. It would make the College much more representative, which is the point.

[Dilbert San Diego]

As an aside, it looks like Indiana divides up congressional districts so that each district groups counties together. It looks like there is minimal gerrymandering, as there are no absurd shapes to the districts.

[Repeal The 17th]

Reading back over this thread, I find myself completely baffled.

Why would any state (large or small; liberal or conservative)
want to make a commitment to cast their votes for president
against the will of the people in their own people?

“...commit to select electors pledged to vote
for the national popular vote winner
regardless of how their own state voted...”

The Constitution clearly places the method of selection of “presidential electors”
within the authority of the State legislatures.

It is not so clear on how their votes are to be tallied.

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The Constitution
Article. II.
Section. 1.
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of The United States to be elected, as follows:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct,
a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives
to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative,
or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

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[DannyTN]

The Constitution says that “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State...” (Article I, section 10).

Okay, it does appear to say that. Full Section 10 below. But hasn't that been violated all over the place?

Article 1, Section. 10.

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

[huldah1776]

Best idea EVER!!!

[Repeal The 17th]

States can carve themselves up into as many counties as they want to.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“States can carve themselves up into as many counties as they want to.”

They are free to do that. And everyone else in the country is free to see what the Dems will do to cheat.

[Repeal The 17th]

Don’t know how many Texas has.
Georgia has 159.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“States can carve themselves up into as many counties as they want to.”

Not really. Now you are dealing with public works, and other county related items that cannot be changed so easily.

I hear about congressional district. Wouldn’t do that either due to gerrymandering. My idea also eliminates that.

[G Larry]

Let’s see ‘em rig CWII.....

[Blood of Tyrants]

And that is why I would like to get rid of the EC. The people need more choices about which party to support than far left Rats or moderate Pubs. I believe that a majority of the people who now have to vote for moderates would gratefully vote for a conservative, leaving a moderate a distant third, forcing a runoff between the Rat and a Conservative. And Reagan won the popular vote by over 18 percentage points.

[Blood of Tyrants]

How so? The two party system chokehold would be broken. Conservatives could put up their own candidate who I believe would defeat a RINO in the general election and the Rat in the runoff.