The Bundy Ranch Story...and Freedom in America

JEFFHEAD.COM - The BUNDY RANCH ^ | April 15, 2014 | Jeff Head

[Jeff Head]

MY TWO CENTS: THE BUNDY RANCH & FREEDOM IN AMERCIA
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What happened in Clark County Nevada, north of Las Vegas, with the Bundy Cattle Ranch in late March and April of 2014 is a story that should be told to all Americans. We should all be proud of what firecly independent, God-fearing Americans accomplished there in standing up to Federal Government over-reach.

Having been personally involved with other such incidents in the western United States over the last 15 years, I wanted the people of the United States to understand exactly what happened and why. Many may not have heard about the trouble that was brewing over in this part of the country...many others have. As I indicated, the event is not an isolated one and it is representative of an ever encroaching, over-burdensome and repressive Federal government...particularly motivated by progressive elements within that government. They are dedicated to aborgating and setting aside individual rights and state soveriegnty so they can, "fundamentally change," America.

It is an effort that has been going on for decades.

In this instance a rancher by the name of Cliven Bundy and his family have been ranching a particular area for over 135 years.

Here's some background:

Background History:
Nevada joined the Union in October 1864. The Bundy famnily began ranching in Clark County, Nevada, where they currently still ranch, in 1877.

State of Nevada 100 year Anniverary Commemorative Stamp

The US Constitution is very specific on the requirements it takes for a US territory to appy for statehood and join the Union. Once those requirements are met, the state can be formed and accepted into the Union. Such was the case in Nevada in 1864.

However, as was the case in several western states, when the Nevada became a part of the Union it ceded control of vast areas of its territory, which was to become part of the soverign state of Nevada, over to the Federal government. Back then, most of that land was considered waste lands and not worth monitoring or maintaining. Of course, now we know that was not the case..

Western States Federal Land Control/Ownership (in Red)

The fact is, there is nothing in the constitution that allows for this. Outside of military bases or preseves, the Federal government has no power to own and control state lands. Also, in the Constitution, it is very clear that any powers like these that are not specifically outlined in the constitution for the federal government, belong specifically to the people or the states themselves and not the federal government. So, all of that land should never have been under federal control in the first place...and it should not be now.

This is what the Bundy family is standing on. They occupied and ranched that land before there ever was a Bureau of Land Management, an Endganered Speciies Act, or any of the other myriad Acts of Congress and Executive Directives and Orders that aborgate the US constitution, individual property rights, and state's soveriegnty.

Just the same, beginning in 1933-1934, during the Roosevelt administration, the Federal government (who at the time, like the rest of the country, was in need of operating funds), decided to cause ranchers in these western states to pay a lease to the Federal government for the use of that land as an avenue to increase revenues. The leases were low, and the ranchers did not envision the government of the United States ever considering to take away their property rights and freedom. Almost all ranchers, including the Bundy family complied. But, as we shall see, it was a mistake to pay those leases just the same. As far as I can ascertain, the leases were renewed every ten years. So, right up through 1993, the Bundy family paid the Federal lease for 60 years, nearluy the same length of time they had lived on and operated their lanch without any ;lease before the 1933-1934 time frame.

So, after living on the land, ranching it, earning their livelihood and providing for the family, and raising a good product of beef cattle for the market,and doing so for upwards of fifty-six years, the Bundy family began paying a lease for land that they had lived on. worked, and ranched as their own.

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Location of Bundy Ranch off of I-15 in Northern Nevada

And they did so, for sixty years.

Through the end of the Depression in the 1930s, through World War II in the 1940s, through the Korean War and the 1950s, through unsettling times adn the Vietnam War (though out in Nevada, such social upheavels were of little impact) in the 1960s and 1970s, through the Reagan years in the 1980s, and finally into the 1990s, now under the Clinton Administration.

That was when things changed. Here's info on that:

The 1993 Change and events afterwards:
In 1993, Cliven Bundy, who was then in his 40s, was running the ranch that his grandfather had founded. He decided that the new lease that the Clinton administration was trying to renew at the time, was just too onerous. Things were changing. The government was exeerting more "control," and Cliven Bundy felt that his family should not have to pay the federal government in any case for his ranching on land that his family had ranched at that point for 115 years.

So he stopped paying.

After a few years, and particularly because of provisions of the Endangered Species Act which had declared the Deseret Tortise in Nevada and the Southweastern United States an "endangered species," the Federal government took the Bundy family to court. After an almost 20 year process, rulings were ultimately reached in U.S. Federal Court, and they did not favor the Bundy's.

The courts ruled in favor of the US govrnment and Bundy was ordered to pay over one milion dollars in back lease and penalties. According to these rulings, Cliven Bundy would have to pay the back lease and penalties, agree to a new lease, and abide by the restrictions of the Endagnered Species Act if he wanted to keep ranching on the land he and his family had occupied now for 135 years. Otherwise, their cattle would be rounded up and confiscated, and leans and other legal proceedings would be levied against them and their operations to recover the amounts owned.

The Bundy's were faced with either bankrupting themselves to pay for a ruling that they vehmently opposed and which would render them with no livelihood and a loss of their way of life or to try and continue the fight.

Cliven Bundy refused to comply.

Citing that the federal government in reality had no right to control the land, that is was part of the State of Nevada, citing that the Endagered Desert Tortoise was recovering so well in other areas that the government was now having to kill many of the turtles themselves to keep them from overpopulating their designated preserve areas, and citing that there were politcal considerations and forces who were interested in and striving to remove the Bundys from their ranch in order to accomplish other programsn and businesses, Cliven Bundy took his plea to the american people. Starting with his family and friends, moving to his neighbors, and moving to the wider audiences available through the internet and social media, Cliven Bundy fought for his way odf lifew and livelihood, and what he considered to be his very liberty.

At first, the response was relatively meager. There were family, friends, and neighbors who supported Bundy, and even some state senators and to a certain degreee the Governor's office. but Cliven BUndy had outstanding court rulings and orders...and they were FEderal rulings and orders.

Despite the growing support, these orders and rulings were generating a life of their won now, and the various agencies who were in charge of "Managing the Land.," particularly in the werstern United Tsates, were already moving towards their goal of executing and upholding those orderws and bringing Cliven Bundy and his ranch to heal.

The Beginning of the Confrontation of 2014:
Cliven Bundy's outspoken and direct refusal to comply with these court orders and rulings led to the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to involve its Law Enforcement Officers to frce compliance.

Cliven Bundy continued to refused to comply. He and his familywetre standing on their constitutional rights and their belief that the Federal government had no jurisdiction or say regarding what are Nevada lands, and the ranching activities of its citizens within the State of Nevada. He refused to pay (which would have banktrupted he and his family in any case) and he refused to remove his cattle.

So, beginning in late March 2014, and extending into early April, the BLM ammassed upwards of 200 of its personnel and their various government vehicles and surrounded the Bundy ranch, placing sniper teams in the hills around it, and employing many men with automatic assualt rifles to watch over the Bundy operations. They did this to try and ensure that the Bundys and their family, friends, and supporters were sufficiently intimidated so they would be cowed into not interfering with the helicopters and Federal Wrangelrs portion of the operation which were starting to round up and confiscate their cattled and transport them to a hloding pen the BLM has established along Interstate Highway 15 (I-15) near Mesquitre, NV, where the cattle werre being held in preparation to sell themn to help pay the Bundy's "debt."

The Federal officers established an "Area of Control," around the Bundy ranch and attempted to regulate access to the Bundy Ranch.

When the Bundy's protested and even more people began flocking to help protest, the Federal Government, in a rediculous attempt to try and exeert even more control of things, established two "Free Speech" zones within the Area of Control around the Bundy ranch that the Federal government had established. These "Free Speech ZOnes," were small fenced off compounds of a few hundred square freet where no more than 25 people could gather at a time, and then only at specifically scheduled times, and of specific durations, to give free speech utterance to their grievances...where the press could be invited to hear them. And then only on such zone could be scheduled at any one time.

This inflamed the situation considerably. The people in the area would have none of it. Soon, handmade signs began to adorn the fences around these zones declaring that, "All of America is a Free Speech Zone," and these zones and their scheduling were ignored. Despite court ordfers and despite government law enforcement orders to the contrary, the people continued to exercise their free speech rights, and the conflict, and the tnesions, emotions, and anger built.

Such an actions may work with people in large urban areas who are used to being controlled and regulated by law enforcement and politicans and their appointed officials and bureaucrats. But it was not going to work in the intermountian west...and not in Nevada. As stated, the farming and ranching people and their supporters simply ignored these unconstitutional "zones,", and continued to protest the actions of the federal officers.

Tempers rose...emotions got heated...both amongst the people there, and ultimately among the Law Enforcement officers who felt it their duty to enforce these court orders and rulings. And so they did...continue to attempt to enforce them

Civil disobedience ensued.

The Incident of April 5th, 2014, on a State road near the Bundy Ranch:
The pent up emtions and frustration on both sides spilled over on April 5th and 6th not far from the Bundy ranch. That day, a group of fifty or sixty family, friends and protestors gathered and were wanting to proceed to the Bundy Ranch. They noticed a Federal Truck with a large backhoe on its trailer, escorted by several Bureau of Land Management (BLM) SUVs and wanted to ask what the federal employees intended to do with thte backoe. It is well known in the western United States that when a Federal Agency wants to deny access to any part of "public lands," that they will dig large and deep trenches across trails, roads, tracks, and access points to prevent vehicles and four wheelers from accessing the land.

The people approached the Federal Officers there on the side of the road. Tempers and emotions were already high.

The law enforcement officers, fifteen or twenty of them, were armed. They also had tasers and K-9 dog untis, so apparently they expected trouble in regards to whatever they were inrending to do.

One of the woman with the family and friends, who were there to protest, was a 54 year old grandmother, who stepped in front of the stopped BLM vehciles to ask them what they were intending with the backhoe before the vehciles could leave. Apparently, she was thrown to the gound and roughed up in the porcess of the BLM officers ordering her to move and to cease and desist.

Cliven Bundy's adult son was in attendance and had very heated words with the officers. The officers had weapons drawn, and used their tasers to try and control and subdue Bundy's son. He was tased at least twoce, and each time he was, he retreated abck into the crowd, pulled out the taser leads, and then returned to confront the officers. They tried to use one of the K-9 dogs on him and he kicked it away. A woman tired to talk to the officers and she was very heatedly warned by another officer with a dog that she would be bit, at which time anbother woman confornted this officer and chided him for threatening a woman, and a woman who was pregnant at that.

This confrontation was very heated and very nearly led to violence. The latter parts of it were videoed on scene by one of the protestors:

Despite the tasings, despite trhe rought treatment, despite guns being drawn and K-9 units, the people supporting the Bundy's stood their ground and demanded that the Federal officers leave before things got even further out of control...which, as shown in the video, the Federal officers ultimately did

This video and the clear high emotion and dangerous actions by frustrated Federal Law Enforcement went viral after it was uploaded to Youtube. .

The video produced immediate and dramatic results. Several national news outlets began carrying the story and leading with portions of the video.

People by the hundreds of thousands, saw it in the first two days after it was published on youtube by one of the protestors on April 9th. In a few days, over a million people had seen it. Throughout the Untied States, people who had been involved in other similar confrontations throughout the west from the Rio Grande River in Texas and New Mexico, to the Central Valley of Californis viewed this video as a call to arms, and were determined to not sit idly by and allow another federal intrusion to occur.

Citizen Militia organizations from Texas, Utah, Florida, Ohio, Montana, and as far away as New Hampshire (most of which had first organized during the 1990s Clinton years after such infamous killings of citizens by Federal Law Enforcement officers like Randy Weaver's wife and son at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and dozens of Branch Davidian men, women, and children near Waco, Texas), immediately responded and also also took up the call. They mobilized and people began traveling to Nevada to stand with the Bundys...and many of them were coming armed

As stated, the news media picked up and documented the rough treatment and roundup of Bundy's cattle, and the destruction of his way of life. They also documented the fact that the Desert Tortise was thriving, and that the Bundy's had been ranching that land since the 1870s. As a result, public sentiment all over the country clearly favored the Bundys.

Along with this, however, a number of pundits and "legal minds," spoke to the fact that the Bundy's were in violation of court orders, and had not paid the leases. These prognosticators and anchors freely shared their thought that, "the law was not on the Bundy's side," and that they would ultimately fail. Meagen Kelly on Fox News, though clearly sympathetic to the Bundy's plight, was also one who expressed the view that although what the law enforcement people were doing in enforcing the order was wrong, that the Bundy's themselves were on "the wrong side of the law," in this and cpould not prevail..

Well, let me say a thing or two about that.

Who is and who isn't on "the right side of the law":
In 2001, I personally stood with friends and farmers in the Klamath Basin of Southwest Oregon during a similar event and confrontation.

In that case, according to supposed sceintific findings owing to the the Endgangered Species Act, the Sucker Fish were delcared endagnered in that particular valley (despite the fact that an overabundance of them throughout the west causes them to literally be clubbed to death to protect other fish species). As a result of this finding, and a subsequent court order by a federal judge, the irrigation water to 1,500 families was shut off to supposedly protect the Sucker fish (despite the fact that anyone familiar with that species of fish knew that oif the lake were drained to mud, the species would survice in that mud and come back the following year). ,The Sucker Fish in the western United States is like the Carpie. it is considered a trash fish.

In defiance of those "orders," hundreds of local people and some of us protestors occupied the headgates of the irrigation canal (which was supposed to have been transferred to the ownership of the farmers themselves back in the 1940s) and turned the water back on. Everyone there knew thjat the "order," to turn off the irrigation water to thse people was based on tyhe intentionally flawed science and the whims of an out of control environmental lobby and the progressive politicans and judges who supported them.

The Federal agencies sent in armed men to take the headgates back...and they did. Then they occupied them and you had the specter of armed Federal Officers, standing on headgates, taking irrigation water away from American farmers, who had the water rights to that very water. It was like comething out of Stalinist Russia, or Maoist China...but right here in the United States.

The call went out then too, by cell phone and earlier, less connected internet. First hundreds, and then thousands of citizens came, and surrounded those federal officers, began pumping water around the headgates, and, after 2-3 months, ultimately sanity prevailed and the gates were re-opened and the farmers returned their water. Strangely enough, new "studies," were conductied showing what everyone knew all along., The Sucker Fish did not need the farmers irrigation water to survivie, nor as a species were they endagered.

But getting that turned around, and avoiding out and out violemnce were a very near thing:

The Klamath Basin, Oregon, Irrigation Water Crisis of 2001

Earlier, in the summer of 2000, on July 4th, I personally went to a place called Jarbidge Nevada and stood with over two thousand fellow Americans when the Federal government had shut down a county road there because they did not want the road maintained by the county because of the Enedangered Species Act. We defied Federal Law enforcement officers, and court orders that day and were joined by the local County Sheriff and his deputies who were there to protect us from the Federal officers. So, we too were "violating the law," and court orders, but we opened that road, which was owned and maintained by that County in Nevada...and ultimately the will of the people in the face of egracious actions by Federal Officials prevailed...in spite of court orders to the contrary.

The Jarbidge Nevada Countty Road Crisis of 2000

And, finally, I might add, regarding "being on the wrong side of the law,"the Founders of this nation were alslo supposedly in that same group. At their time they violated English law and the Crown wanted them arrested and tried for treason. Yet they prevailed because the law itself had become a thing of criminnal action and behavior. That was the case in Jarbidge, it was the case in in Klaamth, it has been the case in literally hundreds of palces across this nation, and it is the case on the Bundy Ranch in Nevada.

So, as stated, after the confrontation of April 5th, 2014 near the Bundy Ranch, the call went out and people began to converge.

By Friday, April 11th, over 5,000 people had arrived to assist the Bundys. It was an outpouring of monumental proportions. They came on their own dime, and they came to help. And more were coming.

...and hundreds of them came openly armed, carrying the same types of weapons the Federal officers had brandished against the Bundys. And it was clear that those people were not going to back down.

I realize that in today's America many have been inndoctrinated that individual citizen's carrying fire arms outside of a hunting or sporting activity is to be viewed as dangerous and some kind of bad thing. Yet, the founders of this nation understood human nature, and they provided for a common defense by the people as a whole against any future unbridled power exerted by out of control governmentr officxals. That is the true reason the 2nd amendment is in place. A time comes when life itself is worth risking for liberty and a moral, free, way of life.

The Showdown at the BLM Holding Pen near Mesquite, NV on Saturday, April 12th, 2014:
By the morning of Saturday, April 12th, the people who had gathered to help the Bundys had met, organized themselves, and talked at length with the Bundys. They decided to Act.

Rather than remain defensively at the Bundy ranch, or near it...they determined to proactively take the protest and the confrontation to the BLM and their Federal officers.

First at 8AM they met with the Sheriff and the Sheriff indicated that they BLM was willing to re-open the range for cattle operations. This was not enough for the Bundies. They gacve the Sheriff an hour to confiscate the weapons from the BLM and to have them leave. When the hour past, Bundy told the large group pof protestors that they knew where the cattle were and that they would simply go over there and get them. And so they did. One large group left by vehcile, another large group of cowboys on horseback road there.

They went over to the Federal cattle holding compound near Mesquite, Nevada, where the Burea of Land Management were collecting the Bundy cattle.

It was a large group, numbering several hundred people who went to the compound by vehcile, with another one or two hundred coming by hosreback. That's a lot of cars and as the Nevada officials became aware of it, many Highway Patrol, State Troopers, and locval law enforcement converged to direct traffic a=nd try and prevent violence. For a period of time, I-15, was shut down to acocmodate the large group coming to the holding pen.

Those people came to BLM holding pen with two simple, and very direct demands...and the demands were non-negiotiable:

1) The Federal BLM officers, had to, then and there, give the Bundy cattle back to the Bundy family.
2) The Federal BLM ofcciers, had to, then and there, vacate the area and not continue harassing or interfereing with the Bundy operations.

There were perhaps eighty BLM officers at the compound, twenty or more of them completely decked out in miltary gear, with full webbing, assault rifles, helmets, etc. Looked like soldiers. but plenty of the arriving Bindy supporters, particularly the militia members also had on cammo and similar weapons. There were probably another 100 State and local offciers, but they were theyr to control traffic, and to try and preserve order.

The protestors were their to accomplish the two demands. Plan and simple...one way or another.

A tense standoff ensured at the gate of their compound. The BLM had a recording over loud speakers telling the people to disburse and leave. That the Federal Officerds werer armed and would fire on the protestors. They were announcing thos over a loud speaker like it was Red China or soemthing. But the protestors were undeterred, they advanced on the compund, right up to the gate.

Cliven Bundy's son was there leading the protest. The Federal Officer at the gate was clearly concerned and did not like what was happening.

But, by that time...that was just too bad.

To stave off an imminent assault, a brief discussion was held. The protestors were not willing to negotiate. Their demands had to be met then. Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy's sonb, told the officer there that the BLM people had to leave, and that they had to give the cattle back. The pofficer tried to convince the Bundy's to come in the compound to negotiate, but they refused...not trusting the officer or the BLM.

That day, either the Federal Officers were going to give up those cattle and leave voluntarily, or they were going to be forced to do so by the armed Bundy supporters. Nothing else would do. The people who had come viewed these individual rights and state soveriegnty in the face of what was occurring to be as valuable as life itself...and the BLM officers clearly believed them. The Federal Officers, under protest and making clear that this did not settle the issue, agreed to turn over the cattle, and they agreed to leave.

And the did release the cattle, and then they left. About eight vehoicles altogether. And it was to the cheers of the crowd who were holding American flags, Vertan's flags, and State Flags.

There is a video of part of this confrontation as well:

...and a report of the same events:

Thank God those officer recognized the futility and danger of their position. If they had attempted to physcally arrest or stop those protestors, violence would have ensued and a lot of people would have been injured or died...including, in all likelihood all of those federal officers.

Summary:
I am so very proud of my fellow Americans and westerners. They are God-fearing, solid, honest folk, who are ranching and working with the land for their livelihood...and they know their rights and they recognize snakes when they see them in the grass. God bless them for this stand...and God be with them, because this issue is not over.

The charges and court orders still stand. Unless sanity returns, and these charges and fines are dropped, or unless the people continue to support the Bundy family in very large numbers and with very serious intent, the Federal officials and officers may well (and probably will) ultimately still try and enforce them. But Cliven Bundy and his family have shown that they will not back down, and so will have to remain ever vigilante. It is likely, that during this process, the Bundy family, and particularly Cliven Bundy will need to be protected.

This entire episode is representative of the point end of the sword of the continuiing assault on persoanl libery and state's rights in this nation. It has been going on out here in the west, at different locations from JArbidge, Nevada, Klamath, Oregon, along the Rio Grande in New Mexico and Texas, to the central valley of Californis, for decades. Here, the Fedrral Officers were forced, early on, to back down.

But truthfully, if those officers were doing their actual sworn duty, instead of just "folllowing orders," they would not have been there, but would have acted against their own superviors issuing such orders, and the Judges giving such orders to supress Free Speech and citizen rights.

This fight will continue. And it will continue because our nation has become infected by people, particularly in this administration, who are infected with power, and who feel that it is their job to fuindamentally change America. And they are willing to lie stright to pour faces about it.

• They lied about being a transparent administrtation.
• They lied about the depth and breadth of unemployment in the United States.
• They lied about hundreds of billions of dollars of stimulus monies and the companies (like Solindra) that received it, and then lost it.
• They lied about clear voter intimidation during the 2008 elections and stopped the prosecution of it.
• They lied about Fast and Furious and deaths of American law enforcement, and gun running to Drug Cartels by the US Government.
• They lied about the Muslim Brotherhood take-over of Egypt they encouraged, which thankfully the people of Egypt overturned a year later.
• They lied about Benghazi and the deaths of four brave American there, and the clear terror attacks that caused them.
• They lied about the energy situation in America and held back energy production and our ability to become energy independent.
• They lied about the extent of NSA recording and storing American citizen private info from email, internet, credit card, cell phones, etc.
• They lied about whether American could keep their Health Care under Obama Care.
• They lied about whther Americans could keep their own Doctors under Obama Care.
• They lied about annual insurance costs under Obama Care.
• They are lying now about this incident in Nevada.

Despite all of this, and this administrations best efforts to the contrary, journalists (yes, there ate a few of those left in America) have already reported and documented that Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader and an unabashed water carrier for the progresiive/liberal Obama administrationw, was found to have direct ties to a Project for building a Solar Wind Farm on the land that the Bundy's Ranch. Imagine that! Is anyone surprised?

Senator Harry Ried (D) and Son combine to push China firm solar plant in Nevada

Does anyone believe that it is simply coincidence that this firm and Harry Reid, andf Harry Reid's son who is a lobbyist for the firm, have been seeking to build that Solar plant on the same land that the Bundy's ranch? No, of course not.

That Solar Farm is to be built by a Chinese firm. That discovery and it beginning to get the light of day, probably had as much to do with the "agreement," with the Bundys as the very clear facts on the ground on April 12th...which were that the Federal officers were not going to be able to stop American citizens from achieving their aims of reclaiming the Bundy's cattle, and evicting those officers from the area...by force of arms if necessary.

Which leads to my final point. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR ARMS! THIS is the reasons the progressives and liberal are so committed to undoing the 2nd amendment. They fear a moral, free people who are armed. As the founders meant such tyrants to fear the people. Plain and simple.

Jeff Head
Idaho, USA
April 14th, 2014

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The Abortion Holocaust in America

The Obama Administration's not so phoney, "Phoney" Scandals

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[george76]

<< What I don’t understand is the Desert Tortoise being endangered by cattle on a wide open desert >>

Cows improve the habitat for the tortoise by breaking crusted soils and fertilizing them. That promotes the growth of grasses and forbs that he tortoise needs for food.

The biggest problem for the tortoise is that ravens and crows eat their young, about which the BLM does very little.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3143808/posts?page=54#54

[B4Ranch]

This is #1 of 75 videos on the subject. It might be an idea to download them all considering what happened at the Bundy Ranch this past week.<

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[piroque]

Jeff , thanks " We the people " need that support your giving.

[Enterprise]

The King has decreed a law. The law must be obeyed. So sayeth Glenn Beck.

[Ouderkirk]

The federales left because they were outnumbered. But, they will be back under terms more favorable to them.

The federales didn’t expect this to blow up like it did.

Next time they will have overwhelming force.

So any future attempts on the Bundy’s will be met with a brigade size or two. All with M-4’s, body armor, and HUMVEE’s with 50’s on the turret. Maybe a tank or two.

Count on it. Obastard is not going to let Bundy live for his insolence, nor will his son. They will kill the entire family. So any response to the next time will be the start of the hot war that the left has been agitating for. It will take 10’s of thousands of people coming in from behind the federales killing them in the back.

The other episodes you mention were under different times. The communists are itching to finish their coup and this may very well be what they are looking for before November to postpone the elections they know they are going to lose.

[progunner]

As usual,,,, great post bro. Long time no comunique,,,, hope al is well,,,, Doc

[RandallFlagg]

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[B4Ranch]

>>Next time they will have overwhelming force.<<

The total numbers of military members, state and federal law enforcement officers in the entire USA is on 4.7 million. Just how many of these people support and are willing to die for the government position on unpaid grazing fees? One, two, five? OK let’s say ten. Do you now understand now how preposterous your “ overwhelming force” statement is?

[jazusamo]

An excellent piece, Jeff.

Thank you very much for your hard work on this.

[Karl Spooner]

The King has decreed a law. The law must be obeyed. So sayeth Glenn Beck.

What combat theater was Beck in?

[Enterprise]

Some of the dopey broads on FOX are also on the side of the Government here. Spit!

[Ouderkirk]

With the buch currently running the show it is hard to know what they will do. I am convinced that they will be back for Bundy and his family for insulting Bath House Barry by refusing.

You know communists, they never give up, they may withdraw only to come back stronger later.

Next time... expect, BLM, U.S. Marshalls, BATF, FBI, EPA, Forest Service,and Secret Service all dressed like soldiers. Barry’s Domestic Military.

They will arrive late at night with a no-knock warrant. They will kill the Bundys.

This slight of Bath-house Barry will not go unpunished.

I would suspect that they will show up with 10K men next time.

[lacrew]

I think Barry will be worried about the ‘optics’ of a large scale attack.

If federal goons attack with 50’s etc, it will be filmed.

And, quite frankly, at this point, I could see up to a dozen deaths on both sides in such a confrontation.

And a bump in militia membership. Remember how carefully the media created an image of a crazy white supremacist militia man? All that work would be thrown away, if they started killing militia members.9

[Karl Spooner]

God sees it. Bless you. He IS still in control.

[dontreadthis]

Thank you!
Question: there was a report that the militia came up upon the BLM snipers positioned on a crest, and disarmed them.
Any info on that?

[crz]

Oh yes! And we are headed for financial ruin...someday. He doesnt know the time, but it will happen..so ya better get food insurance, or this, or that.

The man is a pimp.

All predictions come true if made long enough.
I never doubted of financial collapse of the country, but I did not need him to tell me. He makes his money off from shadowing news/historical web sites and copying them claiming he was the one who broke it.

[dragnet2]

Just finished after several interruptions.

Excellent background and reporting on this on-going historic event. Not to mention the descriptive vivid reminder of what America and our freedom is all about and what it takes to defend it.

[B4Ranch]

Have you considered what the rolling effect of such a move would be? If you wear a uniform or deive a federally licensed vehicle that signifies that you are a federal employee, you will have a bullseye target on your chest in all 50 states, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year!

Anyone from any militia who showed up to support the fight for states rights /ie bundy cattle /public lands and was wounded/killed in the firefight would be looking to gun you down.

Any politician who vocally supported such a shootout would also be listed as a target. These people didn’t get elected because they are stupid! They are not going to support a shootout amongst American G men versus civilian militia.

[Fledermaus]

See all the red in western AR on your Federal land map? Do you know what most was used for? Nuclear silos.

I grew up in the area on the map just north of the AR where we could drive the dirt backroads and come across lots of cleared, heavily fenced land (barb wire, electrified, etc.) around some small building with a transmission tower about 50 feet high. They were labeled “Private Property” and we were told they were phone towers.

Nope. Nuclear silos. I believe they are all gone now.

[Fledermaus]

This is what the Bundy family is standing on. They occupied and ranched that land before there ever was a Bureau of Land Management, an Endganered Speciies Act, or any of the other myriad Acts of Congress and Executive Directives and Orders that aborgate the US constitution, individual property rights, and state's soveriegnty.

I heard someone on a radio show saying the Bundy's were grandfathered on all these anyway so the Feds are full of it. Just what I heard.