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Bill Clinton on voter ID: Why not solve problem by putting a photo on every Social Security card?
Hotair ^ | 04/10/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/10/2014 5:01:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After years of lefty rhetoric about how even the smallest ID requirement at the polls is some sort of pogrom against minority voters and the poor, I … did not see this coming.

But maybe I should have. Per some polls, support for voter ID reaches 80+ percent. Maybe Bill’s already thinking about purple states in 2016.

With 34 states now requiring some form of identification at the polls, former president Bill Clinton and civil rights leader Andrew Young on Wednesday endorsed the idea of adding photos to Social Security cards as a way to prevent voter suppression…

Clinton and Young, a former mayor of Atlanta, expressed concern that the voter ID laws could discourage poor and minority voters from showing up at the polls, which would circumvent the intent of the Voting Rights Act.

“I’m not against photo identification, but only as long as the cards are free and easily accessible. Providing eligible voters the ability to obtain a photo on a Social Security card eliminates any genuine concern,” Young said. He called on Obama to issue an executive order making such photos available.

Clinton did not go so far as to urge executive action. However, he said, putting photos on Social Security cards would represent “a way forward that eliminates error,” without having to “paralyze and divide a country with significant challenges.”

Help me figure this out. Traditionally, the argument against voter ID is that it puts the poor at a disadvantage by making them spend money they don’t have. Even if the ID itself is free, as it is in some states, it costs money to collect the supporting documents for it, like an official birth certificate. Except that … you also need supporting documents proving your age, citizenship, and identity to obtain a Social Security card. To prove the first two, they ask for a birth certificate. To prove identity, “Social Security will ask to see a U.S. driver’s license, state-issued nondriver identification card or U.S. passport,” although certain other forms of ID might be accepted if those are absent. And SSA emphasizes that all documents must be original or certified copies; photocopies won’t cut it. All of which is to say, how is a Social Security card less burdensome for a voter to obtain than a state-issued ID would be? If anything, it’s more of a pain for the feds since it would require issuing two separate SSA cards — one, presumably without a photo, when you’re a child and can’t vote, and then another with a photo when you turn 18 and can.

The point here, I guess, is to leverage the ubiquity of Social Security. If everyone, including the poor, is already bearing the cost of registering for a number and getting a card, you might as well add a photo and take care of their voter ID too. If it’s unfair to make them bear a burden at the polls, though, why ask them to bear one to produce documents for SSA? Why shouldn’t photocopies of a birth certificate suffice as proof of identity? This has always been the main objection to voter ID — it seems capricious to demand proof of ID for so many things in life, including participation in a protest of voter ID laws, and then wave people through on election day without one. If obtaining photo ID would make the poor’s lives easier in various ways, not just in voting, then naturally you’d want to maximize the incentive for them to do so. That’s a virtue of Clinton’s proposal. Unlike lots of lefties, he sees value in encouraging people have at least one basic form of photo ID.

Exit question: Will righties balk at this because Social Security is federally administered, though? I saw some grumbles in Headlines about this being a de facto national ID card, in which case, no thanks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billclinton; socialsecurity; voterid
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1 posted on 04/10/2014 5:01:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My SS card used to claim that it was NOT to be used for personal ID.


2 posted on 04/10/2014 5:03:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Because SS Cards say pretty specifically “NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION”?


3 posted on 04/10/2014 5:04:13 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bill Clinton and Andrew Young are RACISTS!!!!


4 posted on 04/10/2014 5:04:20 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind
which would circumvent the intent of the Voting Rights Act.

So what, Social Security circumvents the intent of the constitution.
5 posted on 04/10/2014 5:04:58 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wasiss, Willy !
6 posted on 04/10/2014 5:05:10 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: SeekAndFind

How many times will the SS card have to be issued? How many people look the same at 18 as they do at 60? This is stupidity times 10.


7 posted on 04/10/2014 5:05:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

I got mine in the 60’s. Sorry Bill, in can’t be used for anything but Social Security issues. Nice try for a US ID card you progressive deceitful moron.. “Papers please”.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 5:06:37 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most social security cards are issued right after birth (otherwise your parents cannot claim you as a dependent). How would your baby picture show who you are?


9 posted on 04/10/2014 5:07:36 PM PDT by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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To: SeekAndFind

.... Most SS cards are issued when we are babies ...... Trusting we don’t really change much from birth over our entire lifetime .... yup ..... this would be a great idea!! Oh ...... that .... and of course the billions of dollars a year to maintain updated pictures if we actually do physically change from the time of birth.


10 posted on 04/10/2014 5:07:38 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone can get a SS card, and do. Citizenship not a requirement.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 5:08:41 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Huh, Bill Clinton is pro-ID?


12 posted on 04/10/2014 5:08:45 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: SeekAndFind

Some democrat needs to take Bill aside and tell him that solving the problem is not the goal. Quit fixing things, Bill.


13 posted on 04/10/2014 5:08:53 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind

Well at least it’s a start


14 posted on 04/10/2014 5:09:14 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry Slick, that right there would be racism.


15 posted on 04/10/2014 5:11:06 PM PDT by jughandle ( "We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!" -HRColl)
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To: Paladin2

This used to be America too but now we have probably the whore that rides the beast riding back into the white house and the beast wanting us to have SS IDS. Maybe these IDS will allow one to buy and sell or NOT.


16 posted on 04/10/2014 5:16:45 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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To: mosaicwolf

FWIW, I think the US is in serious need of a national ID card. Unless we get some form of secure, national ID, fraud (voter, ID, etc...) will continue to grow more rampant.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 5:16:59 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: realcleanguy

There is probably a FOB (friend of bill) who owns a consulting company that is p-e-r-f-e-c-t for this type of job.


18 posted on 04/10/2014 5:17:35 PM PDT by kdot
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To: Bryan24

That won’t help fraud. Anyone can buy a driver’s license or steal one. In my line of work I handled a situation where this national had four different US i.d.s and all had his photo. Come on.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 5:20:53 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Bill: that is a federal program.

Elections are run by the states.

Someone teach this kid the Constitution. And how to clean sinks.


20 posted on 04/10/2014 5:23:50 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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