Posted on 04/08/2014 9:59:32 AM PDT by Clintons-B-Gone
In today’s society, whenever someone dares to criticize ANY type of action or behavior, it isn’t uncommon for a person to say that “you shouldn’t cast stones.”
It has long been my experience that people generally don’t like being told that something they are doing is wrong.
It starts as children. But many of them eventually grow out of it and start to behave like moral and responsible adults.
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One of the scriptures that seems to be misunderstood is “do not judge.”
I think there needs to be clarification in some people’s minds regarding the difference between judging, and discerning.
Absolutely correct interpretation. However, good luck; as people will continue to stop at the phrase “Neither do I condemn thee.” All rotten behavior is justified by this deliberate misinterpretation. Just as bad is the false doctrine “Hate the sin but love the sinner.” God hates the sinner and will place him in hell. Can any sane man say being placed in Hell is an act of love?
There are actually several versions of “do not judge.” One of them states the common sense view; “Judge righteous judgement.”
Excellent point, but what needs to be pointed out is the next line in the Masters sentence: "Go forth and sin no more."
That is from the Gospel according to St. John 7:24. "Do not judge by mere appearances only, but make a righteous judegment."
The whole story is in dispute. The earliest copies of the New Testament scriptures do NOT include any of the story from which the casting of stones quotes are drawn.
And yet there are substantial arguments for believing it to be part of the original Gospel of John:
For whom did Christ die?
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:7-9
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
god doesn't throw men in hell, He lets them go the way they have chosen.
Being placed in hell is an act of love if there is reincarnation, and thus the opportunity to learn the reality of divine law that cannot be ignored.
Otherwise, you have the situation of an eternal hell, which a lot of people find to be contradictory to the idea of a loving God.
I wonder if people really think this through. Many people have died in their twenties rejecting God. Imagine, instead of dying, that they were taken to Aushwitz. Imagine seeing them in the camp 60 years later, broken by the horror and abuse of the camp.
According to you, that’s nowhere near enough for God. Instead, a hundred billion years later, it’s still not enough for God. And all for 20 years of error?!
I’m not arguing with you here. I’m just pointing out that a significant number of people see this teaching as the declaration of a psychotically insane and sadistic God, from whom Jesus could never have come.
And I’m also pointing out that if this teaching is not true, then it has driven a billion people away from Jesus and many of them into the arms of political collectivism to seek their security, not to mention all of those who turned completely away from God in disgust and despair.
These are just facts, and they aren’t even hidden - liberals can and do openly confirm this sequence of thinking.
Christ came into the world that man “MIGHT” be saved- Book of John. Man has a role in obtaining his salvation.
God hates the sinner. He loves the PENITENT sinner. The latter will be saved the former will not. I actually had an imbecile state that God loved the souls in hell. What a perversion of the word love.
I confess I don’t quite follow the argument of your response.
But how do you address that teaching of Paul, that God demonstrates his love to us by dying for us while we were still impenitant? Would not logic dictate that the provision for forgiveness precede the plea for forgiveness? And if the provision came from love bestowed before repentance, was the one loved also hated at the same time?
Jesus threw out the money changers... and God didn’t send down the Ten “anything goes’ Commandments... Seems the only verse in the Bible liberals read was the one about not casting stones.
Christ himself said it was the sinner that needed him not the righteous. It is the repentant sinner that Christ and God love. The parable of the prodigal son reveals one of Christ's meanings.
It’s simple; we are not the ones doing the judging. The act at issue was already judged to be a sin by God. If we said wearing the color blue on Tuesday was a sin, we would be judging what is a sin. But we are not doing that. Rather we are messengers repeating what the one who can Judge has said. Moreover, when we say to them what God has judged is the consequence of the sin, again we are not the ones doing the judging, just messengers repeating the words of the Judge.
As the story points out, the pharisees were judging who had a committed a sin and who had not sinned - they took it upon themselves to judge what was a sin.
ditto
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