Posted on 04/07/2014 12:04:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Gay rights trump religious rights.
Thats the rule of law in New Mexico after the U.S. Supreme Court declined on Monday to consider whether a wedding photographer was within her rights when she refused to film a gay couples commitment ceremony.
The high courts decision not to hear the case lets stand a New Mexico Supreme Court decision that the owners of Elane Photography violated the states anti-discrimination laws.
As one New Mexico justice ominously noted, Jonathan and Elaine Huguenin are compelled by law to compromise the very religious beliefs that inspire their lives.
The states demand that the Huguenins disobey their religious beliefs and photograph the ceremony is the price of citizenship, a justice wrote.
I write extensively about the Huguenins in my upcoming book, God Less America.
The Supreme Courts decision not to hear the case sends a chilling message to Americans who oppose gay marriage, said Jordan Lorence, an Alliance Defending Freedom attorney who represents the Huguenins.
It is disconcerting because the (state) decision was so harsh that this small company can now be forced by state anti-discrimination laws to create messages that they dont agree with, he told me. This new authoritarianism forcing people to bow the knee to a new orthodoxy or they be punished is very chilling.
In 2006 Elaine Huguenin received an email from Vanessa Willock asking her to photograph a commitment ceremony between Willock and her same-sex partner. Huguenin declined because the event would have been at odds with her deep convictions, Lorence said.
She had previously declined to photograph other events, including nude photography sessions.
The lesbian couple found a lower-priced photographer to shoot their ceremony, but they nonetheless filed a complaint with the New Mexico Human Rights Commission. The ensuing legal battle became one of the first major cases to explore the collision of gay rights and the First Amendment rights of business owners.
When people say things like gay rights trump religious rights, what they are saying is the government can force people to believe a certain way and that is something that in a free society should not be tolerated, Lorence said.
The idea that gay rights take precedence over everyone elses rights was recently manifested in the forced resignation of Mozilla co-founder Brendan Eich, who came under fire from the gay rights community after it was revealed he had donated money to Californias Prop 8 initiative.
We are now going to see more situations where people are going to be forced to choose between what they believe about marriage and their job or their business, Lorence told me.
What concerns me is there will be an effort to expand these types of hunting down people with wrong opinions. I dont know how far this can go.
I know exactly how far this can go.
I believe militant gay rights groups will start targeting churches that own fellowship halls. I believe they will start targeting pastors who preach against homosexuality. And I believe they will go after individuals who attend those kinds of churches.
Rep. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) was among those shocked by the Supreme Courts inaction. He said every American should be concerned.
The ability to speak freely and live according to our beliefs is the prize, not the price, of citizenship, the congressman said. And we all have a stake in protecting it.
Its not out of the realm of possibility that one day Americans could be forced to answer this question: Do you know or have you ever been a member of a church that opposes gay marriage?
The religious cleansing of America has begun.
Do people really believe this is a constitutional issue anymore? 1st Amendment? 10th Amendment? At this point its like arguing if the quarterback should run a draw or throw a post. A parlor game. Were in a street fight people. Save the Marquess of Queensberry rules for people who actually abide by them. Civil disobedience is the order of the day.
Small correction:
Forcing these photographers to take a job they dont want IS slavery.
But that's the reality of America, 2014
“Unfortunately, if those who could act, refuse to do so, this abomination, like so many others Obama, et al have committed, will stand and each and every American citizen will be short changed forever.”
“Short-changed” is putting it mildly. Allowing sick people to force opinion-makers to say the mentally are just swell with the promotion, and, unbelievably, the celebration of pervasion in our media, in our schools, in our synagogues and churches and in military will be a blight on our country from which there will be no recovery in the foreseeable future. Those who voted for Obama and like-minded legislators are bringing all of us a terrible future. The antidote to the homosexual agenda lunacy will not be pleasant. It will be another lunacy growing in parallel- the lunacy of Islamic Jihad. Obama’s courting them both. Good luck with that, Barack.
I think you are probably correct.
Perhaps these people can reorganize as a non-profit to emphasize that their work is limited by the objectives of the non-profit. If the NFL can be a non-profit, then just about anything should be able to qualify using that same threshold.
As a business, they are defined as a public accommodation forbidden from discriminating.
Perhaps they can organize themselves as a photo club/organization that one has to join and agree to the principles thereof.
What goes around comes around. For now, gays serve as a means to an end, but once that service is over, they’ll more than likely find their own rights being pushed aside to suck up to a new voting bloc. It’ll be interesting to see their reaction on that day.
Then again, even a homosexual I went to the Fire Academy with can’t see the similarity between being prevented by force from following her beliefs and what’s being done to folks like the photographer.
Well; the Supreme Being has heard it ALL; and has rendered a decision:
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
Trying to fight SIN with a POLITICAL solution is a fool's errand.
'Christianity' has already ALLOWED the MURDER of 55,000,000 of America's future citizens.
Don't be looking to it for anything to help.
Without repentance; of course.
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways; ,
then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.
Are you still killing your unborn? -- GOD |
It's there, but gets VERY little ink or airtime.
The media would rather present a caricature - Fred Phelps - than present normal folks.
Just like the media would rather show 'normal' fags getting all lovey-dovey, than the raw sex of a Gay 'Pride' parade!
Yea!!!
GOOD news!
Right now, it looks like use of the epithet “faggie” just might constitute an act of political defiance against our growing homofascist police state.
Glad to hear that the problems plaguing your church are now lessening.
Uh...
Did they elect THEMSELVES?
What did it 'take' the FIRST time?
Write Governor Susana Martinez and demand she exonerate Elaine Huguenin and work on a law or executive order restoring religious freedom in the state of New Mexico:
Many would rejoice!
http://www.peyoteway.org/cultivation.php
So you tolerate his sin, so that you look good.
Ok then...
Folks: you just CAN'T make this stuff up!
True.
They should have said 'some' instead of 'any'.
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