Posted on 04/07/2014 11:28:45 AM PDT by Nachum
At the Saddleback Civil Forum, Barack Obama addressed his definition of marriage.
While he said he believes that marriage is a union between a man and a woman, he also said that he would not support a Constitutional definition of marriage as so.
His argument is that marriage has not been defined by the federal government, traditionally. He said that it is up to the states to decide
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So repent, and get that big-government elephant out of your living room. Don’t feed the homo and abortionist will-to-power and watch it wither.
I want them to fight WISELY. Not foolishly, like you do with your continual lies. No liar has the truth.
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Check.
Our current government is a huge money hog. Check.
Conclusion...errrp! Those neurons have completely blown out in Ansel12’s brain!!
Making gay marriage illegal in the military, federal employment and immigration, is small government.
It is you taking the big government position.
No, you are adding another layer of band-aid to a cancer that needs to be excised.
You can call ending gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration all the negative names you can think of, but it is still the small government, Christian position.
You think that with your band-aid you can stop a problem that goes way below the surface? You won’t. You won’t even get the band-aid on there.
I keep telling you what the actual BIBLE says about “healing the wound of My people lightly” and you just keep going nana-nana you can’t hear it.
Well, you mock God.
I can’t imagine someone more opposed to freerepublic than you.
Nothing can penetrate your leftwing views.
If Freerepublic aspires to be one more branch of will-to-power, then yes I must call out the lie that undergirds that aspiration.
I do not look on the surface. I look beneath. Just like any good doctor would.
However, Freerepublic has usually seemed to be more wise than that. You are one of the few who have plumbed the depths of egotistical foolishness, and covered it with lie after lie after lie after literally God-damned lie.
I have sure plumbed the depths of your absolute and total commitment to abortion and gay marriage and libertarianism.
You can’t defend your politics, so you rave about God in a twisted perverted way.
I don’t know that you ever present political arguments for your politics.
Look even now at your lame attack on so called “libertarianism.”
You have conflated that into an attack on liberty.
Nothing could be more anti-godly than that. God did not build robots. The very freedom to go to hell is implicit in liberty — but so is the very freedom to embrace the special saving power of Christ and enjoy a life which needs no prohibitions to tell it to refrain from folly. Now note that the bible does not say that every prohibition that God has made, in Christ it is no. It says that every promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes!
You think conservatism is forbidding access to anything that can be abused. God disagrees. You are the one plumbing Satan’s depths, and apparently enjoying it.
You make incredibly lame pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage arguments.
God doesn’t want you to support politics to make them legal, he wants you to support politics to make them illegal.
Why would I argue according to the flesh when I live according to the Spirit?
It is your thinking that is cramped in a box. Viewing things from a godly perspective means seeing the entire framework of free will, choice, blessings, and curses. It's a life larger than you have dared to imagine.
At least you are revealing that you truly do support the libertarian positions of gay marriage and abortion.
You can only think in a fleshly box. That there is only one way to get rid of an evil, and that is to facially ban it.
You never understood how the grace of Christ works, which displaces the evil by furnishing the true love that was blindly sought in sin. Never, ever. You are a burden, a hindrance to God’s work.
“Gay marriage” is something that is forced by the state. Any small-l libertarian who says he wants that is confused at best.
“Abortion” got foisted on us by the silly pseudo-right of privacy which was allowed to get so large it masked the larger right of life. If we didn’t have a cancerous government, such a pseudo-right would have never had a foothold in the FIRST place.
You’re playing checkers. I’m playing chess.
You are confusing libertarian with libertine.
That’s like saying all gasoline is only good for fire bombs.
It's intellectually dishonest...this guy harbors the seed of division
Newsflash - BO didn't win with just the dem votes - some of his dear conservative republicans voted for the fool by sitting out on mccain.
whats amusing to me is that I've been accused of supporting abortion, gay marriage etccc.....I haven't had the heart to tell him I'm a retired pastor from an ultra conservative Methodist sect LOL.
Indeed the founding fathers spoke of the “blessings of liberty.”
Some folks’ elevators just don’t seem to go to the highest floor.
If there’s a dearth of God in the land today, maybe it’s because people let the Earthly Nanny push Him aside!
It all goes back to where Lucifer said he was going to exalt himself over God. That went over like a lead balloon in heaven. There was plenty of room for him to take advantages of opportunities to exalt God but he wasn’t happy with that. Lucifer schemed against mankind and enticed it to fall with the temptation which played out in the Garden but which spiritually encompassed all souls. Humanity could “know good and evil” rather than waiting for God to show them. This was impossible, if only because timing was an integral part of it and omniscience would be needed to coordinate it to success.
Secular humanism knows about this impulse. It’s the Nietzschean “will to power.” That’s how the lost world works.
When you get to know God you can begin to apply some wisdom that comes from sharing in a Spirit that is omniscient.
Skeptics such as our dear friend Ansel12 (for all his lies) have an admirable end in view. Certain evils are visible to them and they want them gone. However, because of original sin, they can only see one way of dealing with the issue and they also can’t see other issues that complicate the picture. There’s no use trying to storm Jericho if the walls have not come tumbling down. You’ll wear yourself out at the walls. And no, “God graffiti” on the walls and hurling spitballs over them is not much of a victory.
There is one way that our modern US government has taken our liberties and that’s by stealing our taxes to exalt itself. I had an opportunity not many weeks ago to be within the belly of the beast. It was illuminating. I hired on at a government contract for administering a state/federal benefits program. Man, they took their sweet time about authorizing me into the production computer system. Eight weeks and still nothing, paying me for thumb twiddling, so finally (because the boss ignored my emails) I stuck a post-it on the boss’s computer screen asking for the access to be granted. (I needed to be able to see certain production data.) Well that was too eager for them. I got kicked out. I had not silently played the charade; I actually wanted to give the taxpayer at least some value for what they were paying to have me there.
This government steals. Exalting itself is not on the authorized constitutional agenda. That has been arrogated, from original sin. A good candidate (and I’m not surmising to predict whether that would turn out to be Paul, or to be Cruz with some new clues) would realize the worst sin of the government is violating “thou shalt not steal.”
Stealing our resources hampers our liberty; and because we have acquiesced to it in a government whose Constitution begins “We The People,” the curse for having stolen comes right back to our doorstep. God just sits there and lets us try to cope with our much diminished economy and paychecks, not moving to break us out of the cage we have constructed for ourselves. Something similar was foretold when God told the Israelites that having a king would get their income dinged by 10% (then, a huge number, now we would be thrilled if it was only that bad).
We are right to hate the adultery; we are right to hate the murder. But the government of “We The People” has rendered itself weak by the stealing! It can only trim around the edges of such things.
God will forgive the stealing. But it needs to be stopped to let us out of the trap. I could envision some kind of government bureaucrat outplacement program. It could even be generous, but would require the bureaucrats to be employed in something gainful, supported by private enterprise that isn’t merely government fed. And as the productive workforce grew, so would the economic prospects of the country.
Now what does that have to do with murder and adultery? Well, as I have pointed out, the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. ALL KINDS. We’ve been busybodied into acquiescing as a people to these evils under government auspices. Now in this system, in practice the keynote is struck by the US Supreme Court. If people of America became sober again and stopped being deficit spendaholics, and instead trusted in what God has invested, the tone would soon find its way back to the US Supreme Court. We’d see greater rights to refuse faux “gay marriage.” We’d see greater rights to protect the life of the unborn. There would be no more perceived need to cover the walls of Jericho with God graffiti and hurl spitballs over them. The righteous would burst in and many evils would be vanquished, without need to complicate the law codes with every conceivable “thou shalt not.”
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