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Obama @ Saddleback Church -Defines Marriage (Flashback!)
youtube ^ | Aug 20, 2008 | deltaman099xyz

Posted on 04/07/2014 11:28:45 AM PDT by Nachum

At the Saddleback Civil Forum, Barack Obama addressed his definition of marriage.

While he said he believes that marriage is a union between a man and a woman, he also said that he would not support a Constitutional definition of marriage as so.

His argument is that marriage has not been defined by the federal government, traditionally. He said that it is up to the states to decide

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To: ansel12

“If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?”

If you keep on ignoring this, it is like trying to take a cross country trip in your car without gas. Won’t work!


61 posted on 04/07/2014 10:27:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

By the way, I suggest that every time you say “phony God act” you look in the mirror!


62 posted on 04/07/2014 10:28:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How is it pure for you to fight like a political junkie for your politics, and unpure for Christians to fight for their politics?


63 posted on 04/07/2014 10:32:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

You keep on misreading what “my politics” are. So that is an unfair, loaded question.

I would favor ideally a candidate who had the virtues of Cruz vis a vis opposing adultery, and the virtues of Paul vis a vis opposing theft.

But if we had to choose one... I say stop the theft. Because if we stop paying people to tell us “Thou Shalt Commit Adultery” then God will be easier to hear when He says “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery.”


64 posted on 04/08/2014 12:13:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

And I mean it about the economics. The bible is not woofing when it says “the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.”

Take the money support away, don’t pay all those public nanny busybodies, and the homosex will wither on the vine.


65 posted on 04/08/2014 12:17:44 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t misread your politics, they are always the same and are on this thread.

You oppose conservatism, you mock and oppose conservatives, and you don’t support conservatism and our fight against the laws and status quo that you fight to protect.

You even mock our pro-life efforts and the resulting political victories.

If you don’t support gay marriage, then reverse your position, support a conservative party platform, conservative candidates, and conservative politics, to protect marriage and reverse the federal legalization of gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration.

Support politics and law that protects marriage at all levels of government, from city politics, to County, to state, to federal politics.


66 posted on 04/08/2014 12:51:58 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

You keep on lying and your very first sentence is a lie.

Why should I keep on discussions with a liar like you?


67 posted on 04/08/2014 12:58:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If you don’t support gay marriage, then reverse your position, support a conservative party platform, conservative candidates, and conservative politics, to protect marriage and reverse the federal legalization of gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration.

Support politics and law that protects marriage at all levels of government, from city politics, to County, to state, to federal politics.


68 posted on 04/08/2014 12:59:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Why should I use your methods? You lie; that is a prima facie evidence of bullshit.


69 posted on 04/08/2014 1:00:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

You are dreaming about applying a patchwork of anti-this, anti-that laws at all levels.

Confess it! Confess that is what you want. Confess you are ignoring the biggest culprit of all, the organized theft which is our current government, and which it would still be even if by its lips it all professed a perfectly orthodox Christian virtue (which it does not).


70 posted on 04/08/2014 1:03:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

Let me give you a big clue if you still have ears to hear (which is doubtful for you but I hope it for the sake of other readers).

The homosex craze is about BULLYING.

Government theft is about BULLYING.

Common cause? YES SIR REE.

Withdraw the permission for the theft, and watch those homosex bullies get starved for the national attention they wanted.


71 posted on 04/08/2014 1:10:47 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

And so. Paul has the moxie to tell government: stop buggering our wallets.

Will Cruz join?

Unless he does, he cannot be called conservative!


72 posted on 04/08/2014 1:12:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You as clear as day.

Your politics are to fight us and our effort to reverse the federal legalization of gay marriage in the military, federal employment, and immigration.


73 posted on 04/08/2014 1:13:43 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I will fight you if you keep on furthering the government-theft agenda, which you clearly are, as clear as in the light of a hydrogen bomb blast, much brighter than day!


74 posted on 04/08/2014 1:14:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

Look bud, withdraw the deluxe government and just watch all its free riders wither.

All your boasted gains are riders on the deluxe government. You have very carefully omitted telling us what actual LIBERALS have gained on the back of this very same government!

You are attempting to stand on quicksand, a tactical blunder. But no, you clench your little fists, you pout, you stomp... and you sink. When the hand of God was reached out to you all the while and you reject it because you can dictate His methods to Him!


75 posted on 04/08/2014 1:17:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You just keep avoiding the topics of gay marriage and the pro-life movement.

Your hysteria and panic are showing.

You don’t support us on any of these issues, and are fiercely opposed to conservatism and Christian political positions, so much so, that the very thought of conservatism winning gets this hysterical raging from you.

Yet here you are, on a conservative political site.


76 posted on 04/08/2014 1:22:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I am telling you how to UNDERMINE them better than any anti- law possibly could.

And no, you simply mock ME.

You are the consummate hypocrite.


77 posted on 04/08/2014 1:22:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

You don’t even have conservatism! You are a “neo” which is actually a robust affirmation of big-government.


78 posted on 04/08/2014 1:24:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ansel12

And the devil of course thinks that God is “raging” at him. When it is the devil that is raging.


79 posted on 04/08/2014 1:26:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If you were honest you would know that one can Evangelize, and go to church, and do everything Christian in the world, yet still find a moment to vote pro-life and pro-marriage.

What you really want is Christians and conservatives out of politics, that is why you are here at FR, you are fighting a political battle against the conservative beast that opposes your own libertarian politics.


80 posted on 04/08/2014 1:26:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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