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Major submarine accidents remain isolated but costly
Stars & Stripes ^ | March 30, 2014 | Jennifer McDermott

Posted on 03/31/2014 3:40:25 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

When the periscope of the USS Montpelier rose from the water during training off the coast of Florida on Oct. 13, 2012, the submarine crew saw a Navy cruiser approaching a mere 100 to 200 yards away.

The cruiser USS San Jacinto tried to reverse, but it was too late.

The Montpelier-San Jacinto collision was one of 906 submarine accidents from late 2004 through 2013, according to data obtained from the Naval Safety Center by The Day through a Freedom of Information Act request.

The submarine's commanding officer was relieved of duty, and the costly mistake also led to changes in the way the submarine force trains, plans for, and executes complex maneuvers.

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Both the senator and the congressman, however, surmised that the submarine force's decision, around the same time as the increase in incidents, to extend some deployments beyond six months could be a factor in the 2011 spike. That decision was made to compensate for fewer submarines in the fleet.

If submariners are at sea longer, without time to refresh, Courtney said, "it would just seem, intuitively, that would increase the potential, if for no other reason than fatigue, the potential for problems." But, Courtney said, he did not have a way to quantify that.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: stress; submarine; usnavy
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To: Resolute Conservative

Everything was hush hush. Don’t know what they called it.


21 posted on 03/31/2014 6:33:46 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: tom paine 2

I thought it happened off the Hawaii coast. My husband always said there were Russian schooners and subs all around the islands. I’ll have to ask my husband if he knew that.


22 posted on 03/31/2014 6:36:06 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Yeah it was. Portions of the movie Operation Petticoat with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis were filmed with the Queenfish.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 6:46:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

This happened in the 70s so probably not operation petticoat.


24 posted on 03/31/2014 6:52:47 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I am pretty sure the Queenfish ended up in Long Beach at the Naval Shipyard. You could still see some pink paint showing under the chipped and worn mixed paints used to cover it up. It appeared that she was being used to offload waste fuel/oil into and was just docked out of the way by the warehouses by the early 80’s when I saw her.


25 posted on 03/31/2014 8:52:09 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: ops33

Unfortunately, the AF turned into risk-adverse office weenies and anyone making a mistake is fired.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 8:59:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: ExpatGator

The wiki says she was sunk as a target in 1963. The second Queenfish (Sturgeon class) was scrapped in the 90’s in Bremerton.

The wiki says that the pink scenes were the USS Balao. The USS Archerfish for the scenes in standard gray and black, and the Queenfish was only in the opening and closing scenes.


27 posted on 03/31/2014 9:21:45 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: aomagrat

“For the ultra big kahuna of grounding, check out Honda Point.”

Seven destroyers on the rocks during peacetime. The all time clusterfark of US naval navigation.


28 posted on 03/31/2014 10:13:58 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: tanknetter

“Don’t forget the grounding of the Enterprise in San Francisco Bay in the 1980s.”

I remember that. I was fresh out of boot camp/A school, standing on the pier waiting for the Enterprise (my first ship) when she got stuck in plain sight of the pier. I spent 3.5 years on her and learned everything I needed to know about painting and floor care.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 11:33:38 AM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: aomagrat

But more importantly, do people appreciate your abilities as a human night-light?


30 posted on 03/31/2014 12:52:31 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Resolute Conservative

Archerfish has the credit for the largest warship kill by a submarine in history: the Japanese carrier Shinano, converted from the third Yamato hull.


31 posted on 03/31/2014 12:56:03 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Well, shortly after transferring off all of my warts went away.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 1:22:40 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: CodeToad

Isn’t that the dang truth!


33 posted on 03/31/2014 3:34:43 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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