Whose Side are you On? If you don’t care whether Republicans win, care that Democrats lose.

National Review ^ | 3/29/2014 | Kevin Williamson

[shuck and yall]

March 29, 2014 4:00 AM Which Side Are You On? If you don’t care whether Republicans win, care that Democrats lose.

By Kevin D. Williamson

For conservatives, the story of the Obama years has been the depressing spectacle of Republicans fighting a rearguard action covering their retreat from a Democratic agenda backed by superior numbers. Republicans began the Obama administration with effectively no leverage: Barack Obama in the White House, Nancy Pelosi in the speaker’s chair, and Harry Reid running the Senate. The outcome of that was the enactment of the Affordable Care Act, the worst domestic defeat for the cause of limited government in a generation. The 2010 congressional elections gave Republicans some relief... .

[vicar7]

Does he assume Conservatives cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. We can oppose those that will stand in our way whether Dems or Repubs and still win w/o being beholden to those that need us to beg them to vote right in cloture.

[mountainlion]

I had ancestors die for the foundation of this country before there were political parties. Give ma a patriot to vote for. The rePUBlicans have left the standards of the patriots so they can not expect my vote.

[DeWalt]

The question is, can we tell the difference?

[Vaquero]

First we must make sure we are not saddled with another Juan McCain/ Mittens Romney as a standard bearer. We have much to correct with the republicans so that we field a proper candidate.

[Democrat_media]

There is a whole cabal of evil running this country right now.

and this cabal of evil is called the democrat party. the head of the snake is Obama

The enemy of the American people is the democrat party. The democrat party completely controls

1. the news media
2. hollwywood
3. the presidency
4. The senate
5. the gov bureaucracies
5. the unions
7. the universities
8. the schools
9. soros , Lewis,zuckerberg, msny other billionaires are democrats.
10. Obama the main tyrant is a democrat
11. silicon valley, Google etc. are democrats
12. Pelosi, REid, fienstein, Shumer, Durbin , Lois lerner r democrats
13 . the rest of the media
14. IRS , EPA, DHS, HHS, TSA, FBI, etc.
15. liberals control the supreme Court( they approved Obamacare)
15 . Democrats control all the political money .Soros, tides foundation,gov grants,Zuckerberg,Lewis (another billionaire. moveon.org,unions etc.
16.NEA
17.unions
18. lawyers associations
19.teamsters
20.NAACP
21. AARP
22. a million organizations funded by Soros
23. non profits funded by government

Democrat party controls all this and more so lets give these marxist the House too: what could go wrong? /sarcasm

[Logical me]

That is why for the choice between Romney and King Obama I tried to stress if you don't like either, vote for the lesser of the two evils. That was Romney.

Apparently not many understood that there is no perfect candidate. EVER! Therefore the intelligent, since they have to select one of the two, should go for Romney. Obamacare would have gone. Obamacare was the most destructive bill this Country has ever had.

Now comes 2016. Would it be possible that the same will be the case? Stupid not to understand.

[Blackirish]

Excellent article. Scott Brown did more damage to Obamcare by preventing it from going to reconciliation then Ted Cruz has ever done. And as far as Bonier is concerned he’s much more conservative then Denny Hastert but or Tom Delay but nary a peep on this board when they were in charge.

[factoryrat]

The republicans (GOP-e) have defected over to the other side, and now the two party concept is but only an illusion perpetrated to advance the goals of those who seek total control over the American people. Imagine if the axis powers and the soviets collaborated during WWII, instead of fighting each other, and you get the idea.

The ultimate conclusion of ANY government will be serfdom, enslavement, and ultimately ruin. History backs up this observation of human nature time
and time again, and that will NEVER change.

[RedStateRocker]

It *ALWAYS* comes down to getting out the vote.

Weak RINO or second coming of Ronaldus Magnus, it doesn’t matter if more Democrats than Republicans show up at the polls. Barak Obama excited the hell out of his base in 2008 and he ran a better campaign in 2012, although not by as much.

Demonizing the other side as evil or traitors might make one feel good but doesn’t help the analysis of what went wrong and how to fix it; outside of social media it’s the same dynamic, lies, hypocrisy, vitriol, disagreement over what the Constitution says and means as we’ve always had, hyperventilation aboutd TEOTWAWKI on left or right does not change the rules of the game or how it’s played.

Left and right, for well over 100 years, it’s been the same debate: ideological purity vs political reality. No matter who is nominated in 2016 the functional dynamics and the need for a solid working party organization to get out the vote is what is going to determine who wins.

My analysis- worth everything I’m getting paid for it :-) - has always been that the GOPe controls the party structure and thus determines the outcome; they are slick enough to let ideological purists strut, preen, preach and holler aplenty during the primaries knowing they hold the keys to the machinery come the endgame.

[chris37]

It simply doesn’t matter at all.

They are all of the ruling class, and they are all the enemy of freedom.

Our problems as a country are not going to be solved at the ballot box. It’s far too late for that.

[Psalm 144]

For the Geriatric Old Plotters:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” - Cicero

[skimbell]

I was born and raised a democrat. That was the old democrats. They've all gone now. About 30 years ago I promised myself that I'd never vote for another democrat as long as I lived. I've kept that promise.

Seems as though every 10-12 years democrats go crazy and try to grab every gun in the country. It takes considerable time and effort to slap them down and it's really getting old.

Now democrats are trying to decide where/how I get my health insurance, how much pop I can drink, what my family eats for lunch, what kind of exercise I need, what temperature I need to set my furnace/ac to, how I have to drain the rain water from my land and on and on.

IMO, the democrats party-and every one of its members-in America should be treated exactly as the Germans treated their Nazi party after that mess.

[SunkenCiv]

THANKS shuck and yall. Off-topic ping to all lists.

[jeffc]

Repubs can't field a candidate that enough conservatives will vote for. They'd rather the greater of "two evils" win as they see no difference.

Conservative voter 1 won't vote for candidate A because of issue Z, conservative voter 2 won't vote for candidate B because of issue Y, and so on....

I see the Dems winning again in 2016 and after that, probably no more elections.

[rockinqsranch]

“Completely devoid of free will.”

It’s true, as well completely devoid of any thought processes as their so-called leaders have done the thinking for them.

[Psalm 144]

Indeed they did. NR has become the very thing WFB -EVISCERATED- during his watch. Today’s NR is to the left of New Republic back in WFB’s day.

[Candor7]

Get rid of RINOs like Rove et al and prevent the outing of patriots like Lee, Cruze, Gowdy, Palin and others,and I will begin to think there actually is a Republican party. So far, al I see is more blivovating about John McCain Clones running for the presidency.....( Puke).

LET OUR PEOPLE GO!LET THEM RUN!

[Da Coyote]

Sorry.

No Rats or RINOs.

Ain’t makin’ that mistake again.

Anyway, both will go to the guillotine following CW-II.

[lodi90]

Whose Side are you On? If you don’t care whether Republicans win, care that Democrats lose.

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The more important question is: which side is the beltway GOP on? Midnight John Boehner just rammed through the doc fix on a voice vote. That’s Dem style flim flam courtesy of the GOPe.

The current GOP leadership has shown little interest in being an engaged opposition party. And ZERO interest in advancing a conservative agenda. Given that, expect more “bipartisan” sellouts of Main Street by the beltway GOP pigs at the trough. They need to earn our support. It is no longer good enough just to be not a Dem.

[nathanbedford]

John Boehner and Mitch McConnell have felt the wrath of the Right for spending too much time playing defense

No, Boehner and McConnell have quite understandably incurred our wrath for playing footsie with Harry Reid and doing so surreptitiously.

Republicans now have the opportunity to effectively bring the Obama administration’s legislative program to an early end this November by eliminating the Democrats’ majority in the Senate,

No, to the degree that that can be accomplished under the feckless leadership of Boehner and McConnell it was accomplished by the election of 2010. No one can convince me that if we give McConnell a majority in the Senate he will in fact rollback any legislative initiatives which already been passed, especially including Obamacare!

The differences among us are minor compared with the differences between us and them, which are fundamental.

No, the history of the Bush years when Republicans enjoyed a majority in both houses and the pathetic history of the Obama years convinces many of us that the difference between the Republicans and us conservatives is far greater than the differences between the Republicans and the Democrats.

Unless you are ready to give up entirely on the notion of advancing conservative principles through the ballot box,

No I am not ready to give up the notion of advancing conservatism through the ballot box but that determination is a reflection of hope over experience.

Even if you do not think that it matters much whether Republicans win, it matters a great deal that Democrats lose.

I do not think it matters greatly whether Republicans win or Democrats lose except in the speed at which the Republic will be driven over the cliff. Therefore, I do not place my faith at the ballot box, although prepared to soldier on and do my duty at the ballot box, rather I place my faith in an Article V movement which has a chance of success because it can effectively occur outside Washington.

Why do I get the feeling that this article is being written to paper over the real and substantial differences between the Rinos and conservatives so that the game can go on for yet one more election cycle?