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Obama: Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border
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Posted on 03/28/2014 11:17:00 AM PDT by traumer

US President Barack Obama has urged Russia to "move back its troops" on Ukraine's border and lower tensions.

Russia is believed to have massed a force of several thousand troops close to Ukraine's eastern frontier.

Mr Obama told CBS News it may "be an effort to intimidate Ukraine, or it may be that [Russia has] additional plans."

Meanwhile, a Russian security official has said intelligence measures are being stepped up to counter Western threats to Moscow's influence.

Russia annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine after voters in the region backed the move in a 16 March referendum. But both actions were condemned as illegal on Thursday by the UN General Assembly.

Fears are growing that other parts of Ukraine with large ethnic Russian populations could also be of interest to Moscow.

'US hysteria' Federal Security Service (FSB) deputy head Alexander Malevany said Russia was facing "a sharp increase in external threats to the state".

"The lawful desire of the peoples of Crimea and eastern Ukrainian regions is causing hysteria in the United States and its allies," he was quoted as saying by Interfax.

Mr Malevany said Moscow was taking "offensive intelligence measures" to counter Western efforts to "weaken Russian influence in a region that is of vital importance".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: hissyfit; obama; obamaukraine; putin; russia; ukraincrisis; ukraine; ukraineborder; ukrainecrisis
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To: traumer
I actually think Putin, after having taken the full measure of Obama, is allowing the U.S. (Obama) to throw down the gauntlet and finish the rounds of reassuring Eastern European NATO members. Why? Because he knows Obama is an empty suit, who will do nothing when the tanks roll.

He gets Ukraine either way, but by waiting, he may also get Eastern Europe, who will be too scared to challenge Russia in the future, with the U.S. having proved itself a paper tiger.

21 posted on 03/28/2014 11:33:29 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Hell, if I were Putin given Obama’s empty threats, I station troops in the Aleutians ready to take Alaska back.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 11:38:08 AM PDT by masadaman
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To: traumer

Since this whole situation is one that obama created, obama’s words mean nothing since obama said he was flexible. When stupid people like obama say something he should at least attempt to think and be intelligent before speaking but for obama that would mean he would have to have the ability to think which is a trait obama does not have. Go sit down somewhere obama and be quiet before you create more trouble, please. This planet does not need a World War of your making!!!


23 posted on 03/28/2014 11:39:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: traumer

Do it or I’ll give you such a Tweet!!!


24 posted on 03/28/2014 11:43:59 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Enemies Beware: Obama has a phone and a # and he knows how to use them.)
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To: masadaman

...and Putin laughs....and we can only shake our heads at what passes for leadership in this country


25 posted on 03/28/2014 11:50:15 AM PDT by rights with responsibilities
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To: traumer

From the mouth of the great Obummer, I’m sure Putin is quivering in his boots.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 11:51:36 AM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: traumer

“No, not my gentle son. The mere sight of him would only encourage an enemy to take over the whole country...”

http://www.thelin.net/laurent/cinema/films/tt0112573/123008.jpg


27 posted on 03/28/2014 11:52:06 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: dfwgator

He’ll draw another Red Line!!!!!!!


28 posted on 03/28/2014 11:55:20 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: Mygirlsmom
Do it or I’ll give you such a Tweet!!!

Ha...maybe he will Twerk him...../snicker

29 posted on 03/28/2014 11:56:14 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: traumer

Or what, Barky?


30 posted on 03/28/2014 11:56:56 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Genoa

Anybody got any red chalk to hand him?


31 posted on 03/28/2014 11:57:02 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: All

stfu Barry.. everyone knows you don’t mean it.


32 posted on 03/28/2014 11:57:07 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: traumer

...or what?


33 posted on 03/28/2014 12:08:02 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Mygirlsmom

Well done!


34 posted on 03/28/2014 12:10:07 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: traumer

“Obama: Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border”

Or what, Mr. Mom-jeans?

Seriously. WHAT, EXACTLY, are you going to do if Putin DOESN’T order his troops to be pulled back? Are you going to tell him, “STOP, or I shall tell you to STOP again” like the old Monty Python routine? That might be entertaining, but it is hardly a wise or well thought-out policy.

We have no significant military forces in the area, the Soviets, errr, Russians have phenomenol nearby numerical superiority;

We have no substantial reserves of forces to send into the area and, if we did, they’d have to transit a gauntlet of Russian air, naval and land forces just to get there, let alone do anything about dislodging tens of thousands of dug-in Russians from positions hundreds of miles from the Crimean Peninsula;

This is a VITAL area for Russia and it isn’t at all vital to us.

Our nation is very tired of fighting pointless ground wars (you, yourself being a pretty constant (and annoying) reminder of that in 2007 and 2008); and (last but certainly not least)

Russia has several thousand nukes.

SO, GENIUS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? It is quite evident that you didn’t take the advice of Officer Jimmy Malone from “The Untouchables” to avoid going into a gun fight with a knife - in fact, your reckless and petulant pouting and posturing toward Russia and Putin is far more like going to war armed with a straw and a limited supply of spitballs.

Hey, DUMBASS, didn’t they teach you that it is not very healthy to try to bluff nuclear-armed ex-KGB colonels at community organizer school?

Tell you what, jackass, I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Putin will find (or create) some fairly transparent excuse to invade Ukraine within the next 6 months, and will take and annex all of Ukraine’s heavily industrialized areas. YOU will have been to blame, because of your empty threats you have been and are making. You are poking a nuke-armed grizzly bear with a sharp stick, and the results will not be even remotely good...YOU F’ING MORON.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 12:10:39 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yep. I mean, what other conclusion is there?

Next he’ll threaten to go tell his mommy. She’s no longer living, so maybe he’ll substitute Mrs. Farrakhan.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 12:18:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: traumer
Obama: "Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border or I'll stomp my feet and have a tantrum. You ain't gonna like, either!"
37 posted on 03/28/2014 12:19:04 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: P-Marlowe

Good one...

And so much fertile ground for enhancement too. I’ll take a pass rather than get piled on. LOL


38 posted on 03/28/2014 12:19:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: traumer

“That ought to do it Ray”-Dr. Peter Venkman.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 12:19:59 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Ancesthntr

about 42 hours is my best guess.


40 posted on 03/28/2014 12:28:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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