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Tony Norman: Why can't gun lovers handle rational limits?
post-gazette.com ^ | 3/17/2014 | tony norman

Posted on 03/22/2014 10:47:37 AM PDT by rktman

An action alert was sent to tens of thousands of gun control supporters across the commonwealth over the weekend: Five firearms-related bills designed to weaken the state's already porous gun laws will come before the state House Judiciary Committee today. Because this is Pennsylvania -- a state where the gun lobby can pretty much dictate to our do-nothing lawmakers when they can and can't go to the bathroom -- groups like CeaseFirePA don't have the luxury of mincing words when it comes to motivating supporters to pressure their representatives in the Legislature to do the right thing.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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Uh, because there's nothing that mr. norman understands about the word rational. How about we change the title of the article/editorial to: "Why can't gun HATERS handle rational conversatons?" Fookin' idjit!
1 posted on 03/22/2014 10:47:37 AM PDT by rktman
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Why can't journalistic extremists understand that left-wing nincompoops need to be censored??

Oh. Wait. Maybe that's a bad idea too. Maybe respecting all of our inalienable rights is the sensible way to go. No infringement, OK?

2 posted on 03/22/2014 10:52:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Mr. Norman....we already have rational limits on gun ownership....

Many including myself think almost any limit except preventing criminals and mentally ill from owning guns is over the rational line. ...


3 posted on 03/22/2014 10:53:56 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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A simple explanation is that “Mr. Norman and all of his monkey relatives”, cannot understand, nor find the dictionary to explain, “shall not be infringed”.


4 posted on 03/22/2014 10:54:15 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Because anyone with common sense knows that, to communists, “rational limits” is just another way of saying, “the camel’s nose”. Take a hike Tony boy.


5 posted on 03/22/2014 10:54:16 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Communism kills!!!)
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How much pistol ammunition was it again that DHS ordered?


6 posted on 03/22/2014 10:54:35 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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Because lying phonies like YOU, Tony, play with the meaning od words like, well, ‘rational’.


7 posted on 03/22/2014 10:54:50 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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Which “rational” limits? The ones which began being inflicted upon us in defiance of the Second Amendment from decades ago, or the latest ones they are trying to inflict upon us, with the end goal of total confiscation, using registration to make it easier to find us? Where and when do these “rational” limits end?


8 posted on 03/22/2014 10:55:49 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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Why can’t hoplophobes make arguments without calling the opposition irrational?


9 posted on 03/22/2014 10:57:44 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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Tony Norman: Why can't gun lovers handle rational limits?

Why can't Tony tolerate just a few rats in his home, just a few fleas in his carpet, just some lice in his children's hair, and a couple of bedbugs for each of 'em?

10 posted on 03/22/2014 11:00:27 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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The problem with the whole mentally I’ll schtick is that it will simply be modified to include more and more “illnesses”. The types of “criminals” banned will be expanded as well. Surely we can imagine they think people who are fascinated by firearms are mentally ill.


11 posted on 03/22/2014 11:01:55 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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Re: Why can’t gun lovers handle rational limits?

There are already 22,000 laws. What makes this clown think law 22,001 will do anything more to stop crime?


12 posted on 03/22/2014 11:04:42 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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I agree the definition of mentally ill can be a slippery slope...but just about every major modern mass murder can be traced back to a mentally ill person taking psychopathic prescribed drugs...

We need to hold people accountable first who are taking these drugs. ..


13 posted on 03/22/2014 11:11:38 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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No, the real question is why don’t gun haters accept rational limits. THey ask for one restriction, then another, then another, then a ban. They NEVER stick to rational limits.


14 posted on 03/22/2014 11:15:47 AM PDT by CWCoop
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If Mr Norman really thinks his ideas are rational, then he should support a constitutional amendment to amend the 2nd Amendment, so his ideas would then not be a violation of the Constitution.

The standard for an idea to not violate the Constitution is not whether the idea is rational or popular, but rather, whether is is allowed by the Constitution.


15 posted on 03/22/2014 11:16:21 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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Popman, your position begs an interesting question. Holding THEM accountable should NOT include infringement of my rights, or those of others.
How would you propose to hold them accountable? By applying an additional burden on the rest of us? Or...?


16 posted on 03/22/2014 11:17:47 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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The only gun control that is rational is the control we practice at the range, when hunting and, when shooting the enemys of freedom.

The only acceptable gun control IMHO is deterance created by the fear of being shot.

Yep, I am the one they fear the most.


17 posted on 03/22/2014 11:30:40 AM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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One of the commenters at the Post-Gazette site epitomizes the pure Fudd mentality when he says,

“I have a safe full of guns and use mine for hunting and target shooting. ALTHOUGH I DO NOT USE THEM FOR SELF DEFENSE (emphasis) I understand the motivations of those who do.”

He supports `universal background checks’, BTW.


18 posted on 03/22/2014 11:33:55 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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Because all of their, “Rational,” limits involve punishing the innocent, and crime going up.


19 posted on 03/22/2014 11:36:59 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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How would you propose to hold them accountable? By applying an additional burden on the rest of us? Or...?

It is an interesting question, at least about the mentally ill, one I think can be answered by people being responible and aware ...

How many people who are bat sh*t crazy and own a legal gun...by lying on line F on the ATF Form 4473 and their family know but do not care...

f. Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes having been adjudicated incompetent to manage your own affairs) or have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

These people need to contact their local authorities and ask them to look into it...

As for criminals and illegal gun ownership ...That's the $64,000 question...

20 posted on 03/22/2014 11:37:44 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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