[SuziQ]

Black kids can learn just as well as white kids, all other things being equal. But all those other things have more to do with family situation than anything else. If there is not a father in the house, and the mother is working, who will make the kids do their schoolwork? Even if the mother is on welfare, there is NO excuse for her not to monitor the kids' work. If, however, single black mothers do not support the teachers in making the kids do their work, or don't encourage their kids to do well, then their kids won't work hard, and won't get ahead. The key to learning is a good grasp of reading. Every urban school has a library, and every urban area has a public library. There is no cost in learning to read; it is free for the taking, IF the families think it is important. If black families do not take advantage of all the services offered to them, and their kids do not advance because of it, that is not racism, that is laziness.

The same problems are showing up in poor white families as well, but somehow, no polls are ever done about them.

[FredZarguna]

Black kids can learn just as well as white kids, all other things being equal.

On average, all other things are not equal. They never are, and they never can be.

The only equality we should expect, demand, and guarantee is equality before the law. The liberal demand of equality of outcomes is arrant nonsense, and will only ever lead to more propaganda about "racism," calls for more money, more affirmative action, more racial quotas and set-asides ... and more failure.

The same problems are showing up in poor white families as well, but somehow, no polls are ever done about them.

The same problems show up in poor white families for the same reason. Ask any social worker who is honest and he/she will tell you the same thing: Most poor people fall into three categories. 1) Temporary poor people 2) Transiently poor people and 3) Permanently poor people.

Temporary poor people are people who have had some kind of catastrophic set-back: death in the family or a health crisis, national economic collapse without savings or any contingency plan. As the name suggests, they do not stay poor very long.

Transient poor people are usually immigrants who don't speak the language. Within a few generations they usually aren't poor any more. This label also usually applies to the children of people who aren't motivated to work; most of them reject their parents' life choices and don't remain poor.

Permanently poor people. Permanently poor people have one thing in common regardless of race or national origin: they're stupid. That's the harsh reality.

They're stupid.