Posted on 03/17/2014 7:41:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Of all the things to be nostalgic for, infectious diseases probably don’t make it onto many lists.
However, if you happen to pine for the good old days when measles was an active public health threat, I have good news for you. The anti-vaccine crowd is bringing it back.
There is currently an outbreak of measles in New York City. Considered eliminated in the United States in 2000, last year saw a record number of outbreaks around the country. It’s only three months into 2014, and not only is the nation’s largest city seeing cases in several boroughs, but other major metropolitan areas are warning of new cases as well.
This is not some inconvenience to be laughed off. Measles is a highly-contagious illness caused by a virus. It usually presents with a combination of rash, fevers, cough and runny nose, as well as characteristic spots in the mouth. Most patients recover after an unpleasant but relatively uneventful period of sickness. Unfortunately, about one patient in every 1,000 develops inflammation of the brain, and one to three cases per 1000 in the United States result in death.
Reports from New York note that several people have been hospitalized, and infected patients include infants too young to be vaccinated themselves. Because the American public hasn’t needed to worry much about this once-contained threat in quite some time, most people probably don’t know that measles can kill, or leave children permanently disabled.
We vaccinate people for a reason.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
Please, you can’t inoculate away death. You build immunity, you eat healthy, and you treat where appropriate. Millions of people survive childhood diseases every year too.
You can still get the measles, even if you had the vaccine, sometimes. All my kids had the Rubella disease and mumps, but got the vaccine for measles. None of them test as having had the vaccine or the diseases. They are all vulnerable. I had serious cases of mumps twice, and Mononucleosis twice, but I did not develop a resistance to any of them and can get them again, if exposed. Vaccines are not 100% and even having the disease does not always give immunity, either. It mostly does, but it is not 100%.
You should read the articles about this again. There was no meta study showing this. There was a meta study questioning efficacy rates, but only in certain groups. There was also an article about research done on ferrets that I think you're referring to about increased likelihood of flu which applied to only ONE year, 2009. The researcher's theory
That theory relates to the fact that the 2008 vaccine protected against an H1N1 virus that was related to — but not similar enough to — the pandemic virus to generate antibodies that would neutralize it. The thinking is that might actually have facilitated infection with the pandemic virus.Note that the researcher also said
But in the meantime, Skowronski insisted the findings should not deter people from getting seasonal flu shots. "I do think it's important to clarify that our findings are unique to the pandemic," she insisted. "Pandemics are infrequent occurrences, but seasonal influenza recurs on an annual basis. It's a substantial cause of morbidity and mortality," — science's term for illness and death — "and the seasonal vaccine substantially protects against that severe outcome due to seasonal influenza."
We all had the measles. Got rid of them and with a lifelong immunity.
My two nephews have autism. Completely different sides of the family.
What’s the story?
One’s my Godson the other my spouse’s. The story on the inlaw was he went into the vaccination deal at 18 months doing well and got shot up with about seven different vaccines, one was three months early for his schedule. Hs never been the same in 19 years.
Can’t function. If his parents go first, we get him. The other guy ditto.
When I went to vaccinate ours, I did the research. found out what they do in other first world countries.
I gave them all the vaccines they needed. Spread out. Fought with a lot of people. they do not need hep b one hour after birth. Theyre not going to be scoring illicit drugs in the nursery with the other newborns, and theyre not getting anything a careful staff shouldn’t give them.
I had a hep b shot last month. Hurt like a b for three days. WE do that to these kids. Like they’re robots.
There’s a knee jerk reaction to this on this forum, but to be informed is conservative.
they had all the shots they needed entering preschool. They never infected anyone.
I wanted to get chicken pox, couldn’t buy it. Wanted to have a CP get together no dice.
No one has it. They have to get boosters. WE all had chicken pox as kids. Had an outbreak with the troops. Worked surgery for years. Never have I ever seen pain and discomfort like I did on 19 yo marines with Chicken Pox. THere’s nothing like it. There IS no relief.
Chicken pox vaccine has no guarantee of lifelong immunity.
Stupid like obamacare. Big pharm driven. There is not a thing wrong with getting chicken pox as a kid.
Spread the vaccines out wisely, get informed on scheduling don’t blindly trust pushy doctors.
And figure out what the heck is causing this autism spectrum in boys.
What is it? I know 15 kids off the top of my head. Families devastated.
No one thinks twice about bombarding a fetus with ultrasound waves once a month during development.
THat’s just not right.
What is it?
It’s apparent on this forum with the berating. Don’t think, don’t think, don’t think! No independent thinking!
I know guys who have to live with their sons acting out violently, or not being independent, able to drive at age 20. Theyre all over the military.
anyone who deals with it has the right to wonder what the hell is it. It is very obviously environmental and it is something medical authority, the medical community refuses to be curious about.
Of course something could be being hidden.
I never saw suffering like I saw when the guys (adults) contracted chicken pox. A vaccine is a Godsend for adults who have not had the disease as a child
I draw the line at “disease parties.” Something is diseased with that.
It is a mystery, the backlash from people who trust this medical community. I will never understand it.
My son had chicken pox when he was about 19 months old..
he had 2 little spots ..one on his chest and one well somewhere else... :)
I was prepared for a fussy little chap but he was his usual happy self...
He had to stay home from the day care for a few days..
One does not have to put medical science in God’s very shoes to take reasoned risks.
Nah... Chicken pox is highly contageous by contact. If he had contact with an infected child, that's all it take. Or another possibility, if he never had chicken pox, and came into contact with an adult who has shingles, that would do it as well.
But as you get older, chicken pox does become a greater health risk.
Mark
leave children permanently disabled.
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when we got measles in the 1950s we had to stay in a darkened room..
it was said patients could go blind...
I was 6 when I got it and I still remember a raging headache and throwing up..
My hubby had chicken pox at 40. Ran fever for 2 whole days. Spots for 10 or so. Back to work 2w after last spot dried up. No big deal really. Except for the MONTH off work. He itched, he bitched, he recovered.
He also doubled his d3 dosage when he first started with the fever. We were expecting it kind of, the kids had had it and he couldn’t remember having it as a kid. He even had spots on the bottom of his feet. He took a benadryl and a warm aveeno bath at night so he could sleep but that’s it.
The kids only ran fever for 1 day. Other than having spots and itching and complaining about not being allowed outside in the sun they were fine too. I’m actually glad they got it. Now they won’t have to worry about a vaccine booster wearing off while they’re pregnant and finding out the hard way. Chicken pox during pregnancy is worse than rubella.
If there is a long lasting but not permanent remedy, people should be RESPONSIBLE (duh) and keep up on the remedy. The third world wishes it had burdens that small!
Our cigarette smoking mothers of many did it as a routine. It is 1960s home remedy, wise vaccination. A pharmaceutical vaccination does the same thing, with risks and no guarantee of lifelong immunity, which is what you want.
I managed an outbreak of chicken pox in an adult population in my work. Lifelong guaranteed immunity for you r own kids is key, after seeing such a sight.
It is horrible. In all my years of nursing, combat nursing, I cried over my patients once.
It was then.
You would do anything to avoid that for your kid. Any adult who doesn’t know if they had chicken pox is a mystery to me.
Absolutely.
Imagine hubby in the battlefield, no proper showers, about ten times the intensity for about a week.
“Any adult who doesn’t know if they had chicken pox is a mystery to me.”
I didn’t mean to say that. Many people do not know. The vaccine is good for them.
D3? interesting.
Illegal aliens.
When we enforced our laws if you posed a public health hazard you were turned away.
Oh, and this is certainly from lax border security. DUH
I was required to have a vaccination record showing innoculations for many different things before I could enter school in first grade in 1948. So did my daughter in 1970.
I think the health officials should be looking for the source of measle outbreaks (and other things like TB) as being the un-vaccinated illegal aliens and this administration’s policy of allowing so many immigrants from other countries.
American parents who refuse to get their children vaccinated are also just as guilty.
I don't trust the drug companies on this, and for good reason.
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