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Malaysia Airliner Communications Shut Down Separately: US Officials Say
Yahoo News ^ | 13 Mar 2014 | MARTHA RADDATZ, DAVID KERLEY and JOSH MARGOLIN

Posted on 03/13/2014 5:02:50 PM PDT by mandaladon

Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.

The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.

This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.

U.S. investigators told ABC News that the two modes of communication were "systematically shut down." That means the U.S. team "is convinced that there was manual intervention," a source said, which means it was likely not an accident or catastrophic malfunction that took the plane out of the sky.

U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It's not clear what the indication was, but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar. The Boeing 777 jetliners are equipped with what is called the Airplane Health Management system in which they ping a satellite every hour. The number of pings would indicate how long the plane stayed aloft.

It's not clear, however, whether the satellite pings also indicate the plane's location.

The new information has greatly expanded the potential search area into the Indian Ocean.

(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: indianocean; malaysia; mh370; planecrash
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That means the U.S. team "is convinced that there was manual intervention," a source said, which means it was likely not an accident or catastrophic malfunction that took the plane out of the sky.................Keeps getting more complicated...
1 posted on 03/13/2014 5:02:50 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Proof of terrorism.

Now what?


2 posted on 03/13/2014 5:05:20 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: maggief; hoosiermama; TigersEye; penelopesire; ConservativeMan55; AllAmericanGirl44; Nachum; ...

PING


3 posted on 03/13/2014 5:06:15 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: crosslink

bump!


4 posted on 03/13/2014 5:07:20 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Yaelle

“Proof of terrorism.”

And no proof it crashed. A cell jammer would stop passenger reports.

This is unwinding down a strange path.


5 posted on 03/13/2014 5:11:04 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: mandaladon
they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean

Probably terrorists took control and were planning to crash it into a target, probably in India or maybe Diego Garcia.

Either passengers did a Let's Roll or the terrorists couldn't manage to fly low without crashing.

Governments will blame it on a spontaneous explosion in a previously-unknown fuel tank located in the aft toilet.

6 posted on 03/13/2014 5:13:22 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: DBrow

My head is exploding with all these theories!!!
I feel like I am having a nightmare taking a test on physics theories and I am so confused! ha.


7 posted on 03/13/2014 5:13:57 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: DBrow

Expect the EMP of CONUS 72hrs before Arpaio announces documented evidence of Hussein’s 7 stolen SSNs.

Stock up on Rice Krispies.


8 posted on 03/13/2014 5:14:19 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: mandaladon

We are sending one ship into the Indian Ocean.

Since the area to be searched there is huge, my gut tells me that our submarines have picked up the pinging of the black boxes and are directing where the USS Kidd should head to, in order to search for surface debris.

With our global spy satellite system, there is no way we do not know where this plane went, where it is, and even what was said in radio transmissions.

The way this investigation is unfolding suggests that many governments are playing a waiting game, and not revealing what they know until they absolutely have to.

If we are now saying the Indian Ocean is the target area, it is because we are calling everyone else’s bluff on the intelligence they have offered to date—Malaysians, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.

There has not been one piece of reliable information about this plane in over six days—except that it did not reach its destination.


9 posted on 03/13/2014 5:14:27 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: mandaladon

The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder
— which transmits location and altitude — shut down at 1:21 a.m.

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I’m not an aviation expert but the above to me could mean that some event other than manual
shut down by a pilot could the cause of the differing times.

The following gives an indication that the plane was aloft way beyond the shut down of the
data reporting systems. Thus it could be some type of hijacking. But where is the plane now?

.....but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight
continued to “ping” a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar.....

Thanks for posting the article.


10 posted on 03/13/2014 5:18:54 PM PDT by deport
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To: mandaladon

aye, aye, aye...


11 posted on 03/13/2014 5:19:38 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: exit82

Best summary of the event that I have read, kudos!


12 posted on 03/13/2014 5:27:00 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: deport

You can turn off a transponder with it’s individual control switch, with it’s circuit breaker, with the avionics master switch or a failure of the system. There are two independent transponder systems on board. Total electrical failure is such a remote possibility that it is not even on the B777 emergency checklist.


13 posted on 03/13/2014 5:27:02 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: mandaladon

Big Ole Jet Airliner.


14 posted on 03/13/2014 5:30:01 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: DBrow
A cell jammer would stop passenger reports.

Such gadgets can be purchased rather cheaply and easily.
15 posted on 03/13/2014 5:30:50 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: exit82

My first theory was that they had flown the jet to the Philippines, but it seems they didn’t have enough fuel for that so obviously that was out.

The Indian Ocean didn’t seem likely, because they couldn’t land on Diego Garcia and the station there would probably have noticed something if they flew by...but maybe the station did notice something and it’s just possible to investigate it now.

One of the problems with this is not only all the little, lax-security countries (such as Malaysia) doing CYA, but the Chinese, who do not want anybody near their territory and seem to have not been cooperating at all, even though most of the passengers were Chinese.

However, the issue is the fuel. If they had only enough to go to Beijing, they couldn’t have gotten to the Philippines (in one direction) or much past Diego Garcia (in the other). But if they had more fuel, for one reason or another, then there are all sorts of destinations within range.

The Indian Ocean seems like a logical pass-through point, since they could access places like Somalia and other failed-state areas where they could easily land the plane. Well, not easily, because any runway they had built would probably not be exactly easy to land on. But the pirates from this area have kidnapped lots of people with construction skills, so perhaps they made their slave labor build a giant runway.


16 posted on 03/13/2014 5:36:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: Meet the New Boss
"....maybe Diego Garcia."

Okay, I'll bite....why Diego?

17 posted on 03/13/2014 5:42:43 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: mandaladon

The copilot (or pilot) flew the plane to the southwest coast of Sumatra and attempted a preplaned belly landing on a beach of Sumatra or one of the offshore islands. There is little communication or radar capability there.


18 posted on 03/13/2014 5:44:15 PM PDT by kayak42
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To: kayak42

How about satellite optical coverage?


19 posted on 03/13/2014 5:45:56 PM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: diogenes ghost

It’s within range, assuming the plane had the minimum amount of fuel. But it’s a tiny island — filled with and surrounded by radar and communications — and there’s no way a plane could land there undetected. If you want to believe the US hijacked the plane, go ahead, but please remember to put on your tinfoil hat...


20 posted on 03/13/2014 5:46:03 PM PDT by livius
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