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Fox News Video:Aviation Expert on Why Flight 370 May Have Been Diverted
Fox News Video ^ | March 13, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 03/13/2014 3:19:15 PM PDT by lbryce

Fox Video:Aviation expert on why Flight 370 may have been diverted

I checked the page info and the video was last modified at 6:07:30 PM hoping to validate that this is the latest information on the story

(Excerpt) Read more at video.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 777; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh370
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To: drypowder

I believe what I heard today was the the plane is capable of transmitting performance data and maybe even GPS location data to a satellite and that data is then used to evaluate the performance of the engines and other equipment. Apparently this is an “up sell” feature and Malaysia Airlines declined to pay for this additional service (or so claimed the person on TV).

It sounds like they don’t actually turn off the capability, but rather don’t allow upload of data. So the plane contacts the satellite and identifies itself, and the satellite says “thanks - but I won’t accept any upload of information from you because you haven’t paid”. This interaction was being described by some on TV as a “ping” (like an IP ping). It sounds like the plane continued to contact the satellite for hours but nothing more then identification information was exchanged. It kind of makes sense as the service could be enabled as soon as a payment is received or turned off if payment is late - all without having to have physical access to the plane.

I can believe that it is the satellite that controls whether to accept the data or not, rather then the plane simply pushing data and the satellite accepting it, then throwing it away or otherwise rejecting it if not a subscriber. Data communications are too dangerous to just accept input without verifying the identity of the sender - too easy to inject bad things into the data stream, overflow buffers, etc. etc. as we know from many computer viruses and trojan horses.

I didn’t hear if this “pinging” could help localize the plane in any more then a very general position (range of the signal, movement of the plane and the satellite could give you a very rough idea of movement I’d think, but without triangulation of some type from multiple receivers, just very general).

Never considered that the sales guy for a jumbo jet would be out there trying to up sell the customer!

I don’t know about the internals of a 777, but could believe that the antennas used to communication with a satellite up above would be more on the top of the plane and the antennas used to communicate with ground stations would be more on the bottom of the plane. A hull breach that took out the ground antennas might then not take out the satellite antennas - but just speculating on that.


61 posted on 03/13/2014 10:52:51 PM PDT by tahoeblue
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To: CivilWarBrewing
CNN’s sole topic all day was this ‘plane incident’. Starting to wonder now if this isn’t all one big operation to take everyone’s eyes off of Ukraine.

Well, it worked for me, and I believe there are at least two pilots who haven't given even a passing glance at Urkraine.

62 posted on 03/13/2014 11:24:38 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: lbryce

Read this on another site and this is very troubling about the Captain.

And in a German online forum for simulator enthusiasts, X-Sim.de, there is a post from November 2012 in his name that says he built it himself.

“About a month ago I finish assembly of FSX and FS9 with 6 monitors.” The message was signed Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah BOEING 777 MALAYSIA AIRLINES


63 posted on 03/14/2014 7:28:44 AM PDT by ncfool (Taking back America 2016.)
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To: Yorlik803
The only thing is that in a Clancy Novel, the CIA is on the ball.

I don't think Clancy imagined we'd have a DCI who was a shake-and-bake Muslim....

64 posted on 03/14/2014 8:05:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: xone

I imagine that most airline pilots would land rather than be shot down.

I am not saying I believe it happened, but it could.


65 posted on 03/14/2014 9:38:15 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Maybe, but the real question is who could have had a plane in that area to make such a demand? Only the US.


66 posted on 03/14/2014 9:49:27 AM PDT by xone
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To: SomeCallMeTim
"One terrorist group HAS claimed responsibility... some Anti-Chinese band"

Falun Gong?

Fulan Gong, by itself, would not be able to achieve this - they have major problems with China and China has major problems with them.

I do question China, North Korea and Russia; a different and brand new "axis of evil".

Just sayin'............

Comes at a convenient time what with Crimea/Russia. If Russia is to take on Crimea, I think Putin knows he can roll Obama with Obama's "flexibility.

67 posted on 03/15/2014 12:46:15 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"This, to me, smacks of anti-radar interference that worked with civilian radar but not stronger military. What could do that?"

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I'm just making a wag but could they have used something like EMP.

68 posted on 03/15/2014 1:04:32 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"The picture of the two Iranians with false passports was originally crazy in that from the bottom half of the briefcase the pictures appeared to be identical. What gives?"

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I saw those photos, too, and I join you in "what gives".

From the waist down, the two looked the same.

69 posted on 03/15/2014 1:17:07 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Ezekiel
"This plane would be located in a heartbeat if an IRS audit were ordered on the American IBM exec."

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*snicker*

Or, Tea Partiers.

Where is NSA - they know everything about everything. I want to see my tax dollars at work!

70 posted on 03/15/2014 2:05:40 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
>>>Suitcase nuke detonation would’ve been detected by satellite sensors.

Yep...as they would any catastrophic explosion mid air. That's one the reasons I discounted the mid air explosion initially. Also because our subs in the area would have detected a water impact with sonar.

71 posted on 03/15/2014 2:10:12 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Patriot Babe
"Perhaps that ocean has its Asian version of the Bermuda Triangle just like we have here =)"

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I think there is a "Devil's Triangle" near Japan.

I think I heard it on 'Coast to Coast with George Noory' so you know its good.

I don't know if Noory was talking about it or a guest or a caller. It was kind of like:

I'm not saying it was the "Devil's Triangle"...but it was the "Devil's Triangle".

There are maybe Triangles world wide; maybe Triple Seven happened upon one of them... <8^ )

72 posted on 03/15/2014 2:42:22 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Bronzewound; faithhopecharity
Just saw the following TV commercial: When you really, really need to get away...

Malaysia Airlines.

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They should maybe pull those ads for awhile /s; kinda' surprised they would air such an ad right now.

73 posted on 03/15/2014 2:49:05 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Bronzewound
"I was watching live coverage of the TWA 800 event and there were multiple calls from just regular folks who saw what they described as a missile trail going upward. Then they saw the fireball in the sky."

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I saw Shuttle Challenger live coverage. It was raw footage and cameras were showing the people watching from the stands.

I'll never forget Christa McAuliffe's dad's expression - it haunts me from time to time - like now.

It took a while to recover bits and pieces and it had happened right there in front of everyone so they could see where the parts of the shuttle were.

IF they find the 777 - crashed at sea - who knows how difficult it would be to recover anything, especially in deepwater, out in the middle of ocean.

74 posted on 03/15/2014 3:12:13 PM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: hummingbird

The ads weren’t real - See my post #51.


75 posted on 03/15/2014 3:43:52 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Bronzewound
"The ads weren’t real - See my post #51."

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Thanks, Bronzewound - I can be pretty dense sometimes!

76 posted on 03/16/2014 1:48:37 AM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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