Posted on 03/13/2014 12:11:59 PM PDT by Sopater
Edited on 03/13/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Homicide investigators are gathering evidence after a father shoots and kills a teenage boy he found in his daughter's bedroom.
A spokesperson for the Harris County Sheriff's office said Deputy constables from pct 4 responded to a 911 call around 2:20 a.m. about a shooting in the Bridgestone Lake Subdivision in Northwest Harris County.
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxhouston.com ...
IMHO, the daughter should be charged with his murder. She lied and created the situation where her father believed he was justified in killing him.
It should be the same sort of felony murder situation where a getaway driver is charged when a liquor store clerk kills a robber.
Well unless you have some proof to the contrary, it could easily be murder. Maybe not provable, but it could easily have been.
Another article says he questioned them, she claimed to not know boy, dad and boy argue, boy reaches for something and is shot..
how do you know he didn’t ask her more than once during this time?
a reasonable person at 2am could easily believe the daughter saying she didn’t know the guy.
i tend to agree. her denial knowing the guy made him uninvited/trespassing under her BED AT 2am in the morning and he wasn’t just going to sleep there,’rape’would be motive, therefore a threat, and then he moves quickly’to get something and dad fires. based on daughter’s lie and guy’s sudden moves to get something.
Dumb girl probably got her BF killed by claiming not to know him thus basically saying to daddy that this must be a rapist who just broke in. Boy oh boy.
Right, we don’t know. All I’m saying is that it’s not a slam dunk that he deserved getting shot. But it is not an entirely inconceivable situation, either. Boys have been sneaking into girls rooms since forever. And they’ve been caught, too, and crapped their pants, bolted for the window, tried to run down the stairs, whatever. And girls have lied to their fathers too, especially when caught red handed. SO shooting him because he twitched is not enough - especially since he was unarmed and an exceedingly obvious possible explaination is that the daughter was lying.
In fact, put yourself in the boy’s position. If you were facing an armed angry father, and a girfriend who said she didn’t know you, what would you do? How about declaring that she let you in? How about declaring that she knows you? How about declaring that you’re her boyfriend, and you were invited? I have a really hard time believing the kid didn’t say those things, seeing as he’d be arguing for his very life.
Plus, note that she finally DID admit (after he was dead) that she invited him in. So he actually, technically was there perfectly legally.
Firearms are for self-defense. Not summary justice. And for everyone who is high-fiving this, consider that the relationship between this father and his daughter is now destroyed. She caused him to kill someone. She caused someone to be killed. Her fear of telling him the truth is also his fault, too, because she could not trust him. This is an incredible tragedy all around.
And if it were your son, would you just say “yep, he got what he deserved, don’t press any charges’? Really? Knowing he was invited, and knowing he was scared?
you’re reqdfiug too much in for someone not there. what you say was a “twitch” was described by the guy who was watching him as him quickly reaching for something. and don’t forget the kid was arguing with th guy holding a gun on him as well.
putyourself in the dad’s position knowing what he knew at thetime. what are you not going tobelieve your daughter at this tense incident? you have a gun pointed at someone and you think she isgoing to be lying?
goodgrief, a reasonbablke person wouldview this as a threat ad anidiot who reaches quickly for someting after/during arguing withaguy whohas a gun on him after being found under a bed at 2am and the daughter says she doesn’t know him, i can see why he woud up geting shot. it’snot unreasonable to see how thiscould happen. i don’t think the guy over-reacted based on what we have available right now.
No, but spitting on his corpse is usually considered bad form.
That's not what I wrote. Read it again.
“If I am holding a gun on you uninvited in my home at 2am and you don’t follow my commands I will shoot you.”
You're still approaching it from the standpoint of not knowing the details of what is happening. You, the person who read the story and the subsequent statements by those involved, have much more information, yet that doesn't seem to matter to you.
“If I am holding a gun on you uninvited in my home at 2am and you don’t follow my commands I will shoot you.”
Yeah, that’s what I figured.
“...note that she finally DID admit (after he was dead) that she invited him in. .....And for everyone who is high-fiving this, consider that the relationship between this father and his daughter is now destroyed. She caused him to kill someone. She caused someone to be killed. ...”
Spot on.
And also consider that he will probably be going to jail for murder, for a very long time.
This is horrible all the way around, for all concerned.
No, it specifies habitations, businesses, or vehicles, where there is forced entry.
Except this kid wasn’t caught in the act of raping anybody. He might have been caught in some other act, and the father might have jumped to the conclusion that it was rape, but that’s a bit different, isn’t it?
“is the dad supposed to not trust his daughter at this tense moment?”
I would say no, he shouldn’t, if it is a young teenage boy and she made no moves to alert anyone before Daddy caught her in bed with him.
You reminded me of a rather "Mature" lady I worked with in Austin, TX. She had quit her Social Worker job several months earlier after having to shoot one of her former subjects. She explained to us that she had to ambush him in her kitchen. She had no proof of who was doing it, but she seemed to know. She had 4 break-ins in two weeks, all at night, all while she was home in bed. There was nothing stolen, just the back door kicked in. She thinks the guy was trying to scare her (which was working quite well). Each time the police would come, do the report and tell her to keep her doors locked and recommended she get a gun. She never saw the man but was sure of who it was. She had no proof so the LEO never questioned the parolee (former subject). Her neighbor was LEO and let her barrow his .44 mag.
She said she waited up in the kitchen for two nights in a row before the perp again kicked in the back door. She said she closed her eyes and pulled the trigger. How she explained what happened next had us in stitches.
Apparently she hit the perp in the meaty part of the groin and he went down. But the bang was so loud she was stunned, confused and her ears were ringing. She had dropped the gun and was crawling around looking for it in the dark. She found it, sat up under the kitchen table, cocked it and aimed at the realing body near here back door. She fired another shot (miss) and again had to go looking for the gun. ROFLMAO.
Police showed up pretty quickly. The perp went to the hospital for some surgery. The ERT put a bandaid on the cut and bump on her forehead (.44 kicks like a mule). His wound will never fully heal and apparently there are no new children in his future. The police congratulated her, took her statement, returned the weapon to the neighbor and helped her get her door back in place before leaving her house where she finally got to sleep for a while.
After this incident, she went and bought a more suitable self defense weapon.
But do you understand?
I tried to make it as clear as possible.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.