Posted on 03/13/2014 12:11:59 PM PDT by Sopater
Edited on 03/13/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Homicide investigators are gathering evidence after a father shoots and kills a teenage boy he found in his daughter's bedroom.
A spokesperson for the Harris County Sheriff's office said Deputy constables from pct 4 responded to a 911 call around 2:20 a.m. about a shooting in the Bridgestone Lake Subdivision in Northwest Harris County.
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Nope. He would have had to have known at the time that the boy had been invited into the house in order for that to matter. Since the girl lied and said she didn't know the boy, that was the knowledge the dad had at the time of the incident.
The problem is, you don’t have a right to pull a gun on just anyone that happens to be in your home and give them orders to be obeyed at their mortal peril. There are rules as to when you have the right to do that, and when you don’t.
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Oh Yes you do.....
“Don’t know what happened to the guy- if he got off or not.”
I’m guessing not. I wonder if the husband was convicted? ;)
Absolutely yes. And this is the sort of stupidity that can cause some of these justifiable self-defense laws to be changed.
1. The boy had been let into the home by the daughter. He was an invited guest.
2. The daughter lied to her father when by saying she did not even know the boy.
3. The father lost his head and ended up murdering the boy his daughter had let into their home, and into her bedroom.
4. And who thinks anyone can believe the story told by the father, that he "thought" the boy was reaching for something. About the weakest possible claim of self-defense. The father had no reason to shoot the boy, and he has no credibility as anyone to be believed, nor does the daughter. The poor judgement, lie and overreaction of the two resulted in the death of an innocent boy. Or maybe you think that every boy who's had sex with someone's daughter deserves to be shot.
This stupid scenario is not one to hold up as proof of the need for various self-defense laws. It's the opposite.
Her parents must have had amazing intuition to keep showing up at the right time like that. :-)
The neighbors said “They were so quiet.” Then BAM!
“She is a minor child under the age of consent (17) and there is no exemption from prosecution even if both parties are under the age of consent.”
From the Texas Penal Code, section 22.011 on sexual assaults:
“(e) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(2):
(1) that the actor was the spouse of the child at the time of the offense; or
(2) that:
(A) the actor was not more than three years older than the victim and at the time of the offense”
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/PE/htm/PE.22.htm
Protecting her from what? You don't know. Were they engaged in sex when the father came in? It doesn't say. Was the boy assaulting the girl? You have no idea if there was any reason for the father to think he was protecting her.
“He would have had to have known at the time that the boy had been invited into the house in order for that to matter. Since the girl lied and said she didn’t know the boy, that was the knowledge the dad had at the time of the incident.”
He had to have a reasonable belief that the boy was an intruder. It’s probably going to come down to whether the grand jury thinks that, under the circumstances, that would be a reasonable belief.
He is the father of the home..you don’t go and use deadly force unless you feel that life is threatened! Dads fault!
Well, think that if you want, but you’re wrong and it could get you in a heap of trouble.
1) You have no clue if that's how his daughter's conception occurred.
2) She's underage? So's he! So let's ensure his death!
Where are the Viking kitties when you need them? We seem to be infested with trolls on this thread.
We have some bloodthirsty jackasses here, that's for sure.
I imagine the laws vary quite a bit from state to state. Where I live some guy walked down the long country drive and the husband in the garage noticed him. The husband asked him what he was doing - no answer. Just kept walking. Then the guy walked up onto the porch of the house, with the husband coming over from the garage to tell him to get off his porch.
The guy reached for the door handle to the house (with wife and kids inside), and the husband shot him in the back and killed him. Justifiable. Although I imagine that the deceased was a known crack head had something to do with it. Not sure what would have happened if it had been a hard-of-hearing salesman.
Not that that is comparable to the teen boy, but some states have a pretty low threshold for a justifiable homicide. I would like to think that I could tell if my 16-year old daughter was lying to me or not - but I imagine at 2:30 am and a daddy’s rage going that might be hard.
It IS sad for all involved, but if the facts are what the articles says, sounds justified.
Trust me, in Texas the fact that the boy was in the house, was unknown to the father and the daughter claimed he was unknown to her is all that the grand jury will need to hear. I agree it would be different if he had met the boy before, etc. But at least in Texas, it is perfectly reasonable to presume anyone in your house under the circumstances as described in the story is a threat.
Agree. The dad has to protect his family.
Its not her house.
The dad said he deserved death. I’m okay with that. We need more of it in this country.
“You are correct, but only one of our daughters got pregnant before she was 18 (she was 17) and I had warned her about the boy but she was the one who knew more than her stupid old man.
Luckily, the bum is gone, she graduated on time, in the top 25% of her class and she has a beautiful four year old son! She works, is now in her own home and in life she learned a tough, hard lesson: listen to Daddy.
My two oldest daughters were NEVER allowed to have sleep overs without us at home - I knew them and their friends and wasn’t going to take a chance, because I knew them and their friends. LOL!”
Many kids find that lesson out the hard way. MY own father, didn’t allow ‘sleep overs’ or ‘sleep outs’ at all....no matter who it was. He too, was a Marine. He was known as “General Buzzkill” in our household. LOL!
As far as the man knew the guy was an intruder messing with his daughter, good judgement says shoot the punk.
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