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To: PaulCruz2016; tomkat; Iron Munro; knarf; heye2monn; DManA; who knows what evil?; ...
How can I have a rational debate on the issue with someone who believes the sinister purpose of the “War On Drugs” is to create work for prison unions?

How can I have a rational debate with anyone who asserts that opposition to the War on Drugs (WoD) means I'm a druggie, or endorse drug use.

Look at how the WoD-supporters label it: legalizers &mmdash; this indicates a huge and fundamental deficiency of understanding on the issue. This deficiency is encouraged by the [federal] government precisely because it gives them more power, but let's look into it.

First, let's start with precedence (and I hate precedence because it all too often means the judiciary cherry-picking what they want) — the 18th Amendment was required to allow the federal government the ability to prohibit alcohol; no such amendment exists with respect to drugs.

Second, the WoD is justified as valid congressional regulation (via the interstate commerce-clause) by holding that congress may regulate intrastate commerce because of its impact on interstate commerce (see Wickard v Filburn). This view of congress's regulatory powers was further expanded by holding that congress may in like manner regulate noncommerce (see Gonzalez v Raich) — the first paragraph of Justice Thomas's dissent reads:
     Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has
     had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can
     regulate virtually anything–and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.

Third, many of the [federal] agencies tasked with the WoD are aiding the cartels. (See U.S. Agents Launder Mexican Profits of Drug Cartels for a NY Times story on it, or any of the Fast & Furious threads.)

Fourth, the WoD has had a directly detrimental effect on 9 of 10 Bill of Rights Amendments. (This alone should make one question the wisdom of the WoD.)

Fifth, given items #1 and #2 the legitimacy of the War on Drugs is seriously compromised — to assert otherwise is to assert that the constitution is whatever the supreme court says it is… in so doing you assert that the USSC is of greater authority that the very constitution that established it, and declare that the sent is greater than that which sends.

Sixth, the War on Drugs is arguably Treason as defined by the Constitution:

Seventh, given items #3 & #6 — and that the Mexican Cartels are definitionally terrorist groups, the aiding of which is illegal by our own laws and thereby state-sponsored terrorism… which members of our own government have cited as impetus for forced government changes.

So there's seven big points of failure, both moral and legal, in supporting the War on Drugs.

100 posted on 03/08/2014 7:12:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

It’s too bad that you are so obsessed with yourself that you insist on pinging entire threads to your posts.

You need to grow up and lay off the theatrics.


101 posted on 03/08/2014 7:15:00 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Step up the fed enforcement!

You sound to me like you should be the next druggie colleected by the narcs!

I class users the same as muslims, the only good one is a dead one!


102 posted on 03/08/2014 7:23:10 PM PST by dalereed
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To: OneWingedShark

Thank-you for your apology. I accept it.


103 posted on 03/08/2014 7:23:48 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: OneWingedShark

But in the end it is a crap product that will stall a ton of American lives from being productive and we will get them all on public assistance.
Until you can pay for the damage I suggest you don’t advocate for this disaster.
Attempting to wrap the disaster in a flag is the worst as well IMO.


112 posted on 03/09/2014 8:02:54 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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