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Welfare Payout Statistics That Will Make You Really Angry
seriouslyepicstuff.com ^ | February 26, 2014 | Seriously Epic Staff

Posted on 02/26/2014 12:31:25 PM PST by onyx


Now, don’t tell me that welfare recipients aren’t innovative! No reason to stand on your feet waiting to get your check. Just put your flip-flops next in line and go back and sit on your ass. What a great country!



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With all the talk about unemployment benefits and welfare, it’s important to understand just how much money we’re talking about.

In 35 states, welfare, housing assistance and other benefits pays more than a minimum wage job, according to a new study by the Cato Institute. The study also found that in 13 states, the payout is more than $15 per hour.

Of course, this study doesn’t take into account that not everyone on public assistance receives all of the programs. But if they did, their payout would be significantly higher than even a starting teacher’s salary in 11 states or a computer programmer in 3 states.

The states with the highest welfare payouts – more than $20 per hour – are Hawaii, with payments equaling $29.13 per hour, DC at $24.43 per hour, Massachusetts at $24.30 , Connecticut at $21.33, New York at $21.01 per hour, New Jersey at $20.89 per hour, Rhode Island at $20.83 per hour and Vermont at $20.36 per hour.

Critics say this ignores real situations. The study “does make a lot of assumptions about what benefits a typical family receives and argues that all the means-tested programs should be included in their fictional family profile,” said Catherine Lawrence, an assistant professor at the University of Albany’s School of Social Welfare. “”Research with actual families shows the extreme financial strain of living on welfare or low-wage work; neither welfare nor low-wage employment alone do a very good job supporting the health and well-being of families with children.”

It varies from state to state, but most states’ welfare payouts top out after about 60 months in one lifetime.

The study was called “The Work Versus Welfare Trade-Off, 2013, authored by Michael Tanner and Charles Hughes.



How do these statistics make you, the reader, feel?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: District of Columbia; US: Hawaii; US: Massachusetts; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Rhode Island; US: Vermont
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You’re right!

I looked at the comments when I posted the article and also at the comments at FaceBook where the article is also posted.


21 posted on 02/26/2014 1:34:10 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 12th_Monkey

GREAT IDEA!


22 posted on 02/26/2014 1:36:09 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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23 posted on 02/26/2014 1:43:34 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Surprisingly, Wyoming is pretty high on the list. It pays more in benefits than Pennsylvania.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 1:47:03 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 3Fingas

Wyoming surpirsed me, also.
Perhaps there’s not a whole host on welfare...


25 posted on 02/26/2014 1:51:11 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx
Don't forget the latest scam, the use of the foster care system. How it works is a girl spews out another baby, and declares she cannot take care of the kid, and hands it over to foster care.

Grandma volunteers to be the foster parent (family members get preference). Grandma then gets funds from the foster care agency for taking care of the kid. In New York, for example, the basic reimbursment rate is $17-$23/day depending on age. If the child is deemed "special needs", the rate can go up from $37 to $57/day (about a third of foster kids are judged "special needs").

That adds up to a yearly $6,205 to $20,805 PER CHILD, just in BASELINE payments. This does not include the free school meals, clothing allowances, and other payments. So grandma can stay home with the kids as her "job", while mom gets welfare for the kids which she keeps and does not put up for welfare.

26 posted on 02/26/2014 1:52:29 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: onyx

Legal Plunder Has Many Names

Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism.

/Bastiat 1801-1850


27 posted on 02/26/2014 1:55:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: onyx

Price is important but so is volume. How many people in each state are using such programs?


28 posted on 02/26/2014 1:58:59 PM PST by posterchild
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To: PapaBear3625

Don’t forget subsidized child care here in New York...

Excerpt:

ALBANY — The daughter of County Legislator Wanda Willingham surrendered to authorities Tuesday on charges she defrauded Social Services of more than $2,000 regarding day care for her four children.

Fay Willingham, 31, of Third Street, Albany, turned herself in at the sheriff’s Voorheesville substation around 9 a.m., acting Sheriff Craig Apple said.
She was charged with felony counts of fourth-degree grand larceny, fourth-degree welfare fraud and first-degree offering a false instrument for filing.

It is alleged she did not report to the county Department of Social Services when she took time off from work, and Social Services continued to pay her father, Elijah Willingham, for babysitting her children.

http://blog.timesunion.com/localpolitics/10067/10067/


29 posted on 02/26/2014 2:12:13 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: onyx

I have always felt that at least half of the population are truly worthless, prideless, backstabbing bastards, see no reason here to change that point of view.


30 posted on 02/26/2014 2:13:41 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: onyx
And many more to go on welfare after payback layoffs, blacklisting, etc. 45 companies. Hmmm.

Aspen companies pay up after wage investigation
http://www.coloradoan.com/viewart/20140225/NEWS11/302250078/Aspen-companies-pay-up-after-wage-investigation


31 posted on 02/26/2014 2:17:27 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: The Cajun

I agree.


32 posted on 02/26/2014 2:17:57 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: posterchild

I have no idea.


33 posted on 02/26/2014 2:18:36 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Fitzy_888

UGH.


34 posted on 02/26/2014 2:19:05 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Are these based on a single person? So that, someone with kids would be getting MUCH more? Does this just include money that they receive, or also the value of “free stuff”? Interesting. Thanks for posting.


35 posted on 02/26/2014 2:19:26 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: PapaBear3625

FRAUD and ABUSE!
Criminals.


36 posted on 02/26/2014 2:19:55 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

When liberals take over a State everything is more expensive due to unions, excessive regulation, etc. My daughter is a single mother and recently moved to Texas from Oregon. In Oregon she rec’d food stamps and “help” to pay for her daycare while she worked. Now she is so happy because she can afford to pay for her own food and daycare because everything is not so expensive in Texas.


37 posted on 02/26/2014 3:07:20 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Vigilanteman

Well if they’re dumb enough to vote for Obama, it makes sense that they’re dumb enough to feed FULL cans into a recycling machine.


38 posted on 02/26/2014 3:21:06 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: onyx

It would be nice for the families if the figures in that report were true and accurate. But, they aren’t.

I’m especially concerned about Wyoming’s figures. I have a family member who lives in that state, and she is UNABLE to rent even an apartment because there are NO rental subsidies there. The average rent where she lives is $800/month, and they do not adjust on a sliding scale. That figure is considered to be ‘’affordable rent’’. She was forced to move out of the state. Nor did she collect any form of welfare. She just doesn’t earn enough money to afford that price of rent. She did her homework.

Chances are, they compiled some of their numbers something like this:

If you earned $250,000.00/year, you can afford to pay $20K in health insurance, therefore, that’s what medicaid is worth.

And if the average rent for a one bedroom apartment is $800/month x 12 months, and you are subsidized, then you are given $9600 per year in subisidies. But, they also fail to add in your own out of pocket contribution. You can go to the section 8 HUD website to see how it actually works. You have to pay out 1/3 of your monthly income.

Anyway, the figures don’t add up.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 3:24:20 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: Vigilanteman
Last summer, I had lunch with a vendor from Boston who told me things were so bad there that one of these leeches actually shut down an aluminum can cash for recycling machine by feeding full cans of soda into it.

Sometime back there was a story about a welfare type who bought a case of bottled water, poured it all down a drain in order to get the bottle deposit.

40 posted on 02/26/2014 3:44:21 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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