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Obama plan: Cut tax breaks for richest retirement savers
Wall Street Journal (Market Watch) ^ | February 21, 2014 | Robert Powell

Posted on 02/21/2014 1:32:19 PM PST by stevie_d_64

President Barack Obama plans to ask Congress in early March, as part of his fiscal 2015 budget, to reduce some of the tax advantages for employer-sponsored retirement plans for higher-income earners, according to published reports.

Plus, the president wants to limit the value of all tax deductions, defined contribution exclusions and IRA deductions to 28% of income — and include an overall cap on all retirement accounts, including pensions, that could bring in $1 billion a year in new tax revenue, according to a Pensions & Investments report. Read Companies bracing for 1-2 retirement punch .

According to the report, the proposals are designed to direct more of the tax preference for retirement savings toward getting more low- and middle-income people into the habit of saving.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 401k; confiscation; economykiller; ira; myra; retirement; revenue; taxes
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To: stevie_d_64

F you, Barky.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 2:24:28 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Jug ears is crazy for taxes. Don’t bother him with demagoguery.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 2:40:10 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: stevie_d_64
the proposals are designed to direct more of the tax preference for retirement savings toward getting more low- and middle-income people into the habit of saving.

So by leaving the tax benefits exactly the way they are for low and middle income people, and punishing higher income earners, you will get more of the low and middle income earners into the habit of saving. Got it. I think.
23 posted on 02/21/2014 2:48:27 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: stevie_d_64

All of Barry’s rich friends have their wealth offshore away from taxes.


24 posted on 02/21/2014 3:56:35 PM PST by Old Yeller (P)
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To: DAC21

It’s not going to end well for D.C. Politicians. The peasants will eat the elitists.


25 posted on 02/21/2014 3:58:22 PM PST by Old Yeller (P)
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To: CMailBag

the old people don’t need to keep their money.... because he has cut medical care for old people drastically anyway.....they will all die from lack of care (and if not, then he has his death panels to enforce this for him)


26 posted on 02/21/2014 4:06:17 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: andyk

“So by leaving the tax benefits exactly the way they are for low and middle income people, and punishing higher income earners, you will get more of the low and middle income earners into the habit of saving. Got it. I think.”

Liberal logic strikes again.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 5:58:42 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: stevie_d_64

Asshole


28 posted on 02/21/2014 6:18:52 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Obama isn't a socialist like people on the right keep saying.

He's an out and out communist. Income equality, tax the rich til they're the same as everyone else.

Communism.

29 posted on 02/21/2014 7:49:33 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (GOP = Gathering of Pussies!)
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To: DAC21

It’s the story of the three little pigs, in reverse.


30 posted on 02/21/2014 8:14:27 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: stevie_d_64
According to the report, the proposals are designed to direct more of the tax preference for retirement savings toward getting more low- and middle-income people into the habit of saving.

Why would they save money when you're giving them all kinds of handouts for their free wheeling lifestyles Mr Obama?
31 posted on 02/21/2014 9:16:57 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: stevie_d_64

Using Karl Marx’s ideas to help the middle class is like using Adolph Hitler’s ideas to help the Jews.

But middle classers keep voting for it....


32 posted on 02/21/2014 9:17:37 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: stevie_d_64

Seems to me that those retirement savings programs came into existance as a hedge against the chance that social security would fail. The recent introduction of myRA suggests a confirmation that it will fail.

People who invested in IRAs didn’t do do because they had money to burn. They sacrificed a portion of their disposable income in the past for a little more financial freedom and security in their retirement years.


33 posted on 02/22/2014 1:43:08 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: stevie_d_64
that could bring in steal more than $1 billion a year in new tax revenue from productive members of society, according to a Pensions & Investments report. Read Companies bracing for 1-2 retirement punch .

Fixed it...

34 posted on 02/22/2014 2:55:59 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: clearcarbon
MyIra is a gimmick. Anybody that meets the income threshold can already contribute to a Roth IRA if they have any disposable income left after paying the bills . You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

Most people don't defer the big money until after the house is paid off and the kids are out of college. That is why they have the catch up provisions after 50. My guess is that these proposals are just envy politics..

35 posted on 02/22/2014 3:59:33 AM PST by EVO X
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To: stevie_d_64
According to the report, the proposals are designed to direct more of the tax preference for retirement savings toward getting more low- and middle-income people into the habit of saving.

What type of logic says if you tax more by reducing the amount of the deductible on the higher income employees (normally officers of the company), that will be an incentive for the lower earner into saving more?

"Gee, my boss is getting screwed by the government, I think I will add 2 % to my 401 K contribution"

More like I'm next...to get the screw

And a third potential problem, said Schweiss, is that the more restrictions on tax benefits we impose on retirement plans, the less attractive it will become for a business owner to sponsor a plan. “And who loses then?” he asked “The worker, not the business owner.”

Oh' Wait the "evil" business owner offers the plan....

Well, guess what: he wants to take advantage of the 401 K rules and defer his taxes as well, take away the incentive to do so and he may not want to deal with all the administrative costs in having a 401 k and just give his employees a different plan like "Here's your bi-weekly $25.00 saving bond"

36 posted on 02/22/2014 4:19:34 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: stevie_d_64
I hope this is one of the straws that needs to break his back...

You're kidding yourself...this isn't even a straw....

This is aimed at those "evil" rich people...mostly white and male....

I'm sure in many peoples mind after years of class warfare rhetoric and demonizing the producers in this country, they think:

"They deserve it"

37 posted on 02/22/2014 4:26:03 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

Simple. There will be no more business owners.

Because “It’s the right thing to do”.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 6:41:11 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon
Simple. There will be no more business owners.

Yup... in our new coming fascist state, state ownership is the only fair and equitable way to achieve social justice and...

Because “It’s the right thing to do”.

39 posted on 02/22/2014 8:54:26 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: stevie_d_64

Those greedy rich fat cats just need to pay their fair share!!!!

What is their fair share, you ask? Why, its more, more, more, more!!!!!


40 posted on 02/22/2014 10:39:19 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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