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Ingraham Battles George Will, Fox Panel: GOP ‘Elites’ Pushing Immigration Reform
Mediaite ^ | 2/9/14 | Evan McMurry

Posted on 02/09/2014 12:40:22 PM PST by Jean S

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To: BizBroker; livius
“I’d like to see somebody stop worrying about Mexicans - who are “illegal” only because we don’t have any appropriate way of legalizing them”

Of course we do, send them home and they won't be illegal anymore.

81 posted on 02/09/2014 11:12:42 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: andyk
Yeah, Roy Beck has been talking about that; it's the way the administration inflates their numbers.

They also count the one individual being sent back multiple times as *several* people being sent back. Makes you think, for example, that 100 people have been dealt with; - when in truth, only 20 to 25 people have actually been dealt with by the feds.

82 posted on 02/10/2014 12:13:50 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Jean S

I had to mute moron Juan. Laura Ingram looks great for someone who had to stave off cancer about 4 years ago. She looked better than before all that that.....

And was making very good arguments


83 posted on 02/10/2014 12:24:36 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: andyk
I wonder. Are they or are they not counting people turned away at the border as deportations where that was not done before?

Just about all of the claimed deportations are Mexicans arrested at the border and swiftly returned to Mexico by bus after a quickie court proceeding. They probably will try again and if arrested again will be another "deportation" for Obama's phony statistics

You are correct, Very few real deportations from the interior, from Cleveland, or Iowa or NYC. Perhaps if you are a nasty illegal alien criminal and get caught

84 posted on 02/10/2014 12:39:58 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Jean S
Most important fact in all this is......our side forced Boehner to back down on immigration reform.......that my friends is progress. It shows we are gaining strength!!!!
85 posted on 02/10/2014 6:30:18 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

bttt


86 posted on 02/10/2014 6:31:20 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: Jean S

Laura Ingraham has been all over the place on so many issues. She has bashed so many people I admire, Sarah Palin tops the list

I really could care less what she says anymore


87 posted on 02/10/2014 8:53:54 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Friendofgeorge

In case that came out wrong, I love Sarah Palin!!!

Ingraham has bashed her, but also has been wishy washy, speaking of Ingraham, on many issues


88 posted on 02/10/2014 8:56:46 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Jean S

At least the fight was even: 4 against 1.

George Will is nuts. His argument is our bloated welfare state needs amnesty.

Why not reply that we want to move unemployed minorities, like the devastated black community, from welfare to work?


89 posted on 02/10/2014 1:41:20 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Guenevere

BOR is correct. I want immigration reform. Let’s fix legal immigration. Why are be biased in favor of Mexico over all the other people in the world who want to emigrate to America?

Should Mexicans get special treatment just because they share a border with us?


90 posted on 02/10/2014 1:43:37 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ballplayer

Yep, where is George Will on the “growth argument” when it comes to abortion?


91 posted on 02/10/2014 1:44:41 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Yes, my post was influenced quite a bit by the 10th Amendment.

Rand Paul uses the catch word "immigrants" when talking about illegal criminal invaders and very seldom even uses the phrase "undocumented immigrants"

I've never seen anything he has said that idendifies them as what they are, criminal insurgent invaders who should go back to their own countries and apply for citizenship from there if they want to become Americans.

Most of them it seems don't care one way or another if they become citizens, they just want the benefits and the jobs that they take away from citizens.

And Paul looks like he is willing to give them what they want.

92 posted on 02/10/2014 1:50:54 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Actually Romney was pretty good on illegal immigration, bout the only issue he was good on. He was clearly not "all for illegals"
93 posted on 02/10/2014 2:08:24 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: SunkenCiv
"On Monday, the DREAM Action Coalition (DRM), which vowed to "target" Republicans during the August recess to pressure lawmakers to support comprehensive immigration reform, went after Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) for his vote against the Senate's immigration bill."

Actions talk, speculations walk.

94 posted on 02/10/2014 2:34:24 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 1010RD
I disagree....vehemently!

We have millions of American citizens who can't even find a job....

..we are not in a position to keep the millions of illegals here or invite more.

It is WRONG!

95 posted on 02/10/2014 2:44:02 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

You’re confusing several things.

1. The inability to get a job is a government created problem. Scarcity is the steady state of nature. Shortfalls that persist are always caused by government action. The story behind the jobs picture is all government sponsored.

2. Legal immigration is lengthy and difficult. It does need reform. We shouldn’t make legal immigrants work harder to become citizens than we do illegal immigrants. The current legal immigration system is flawed. We need and should want new immigrants. What we don’t want are welfare mooches and crony capitalists.

3. Illegal immigrants are mainly Mexican. If you were to simply reform welfare systems and punish “sanctuary” cities by withdrawing federal funds for these abuses, most would self-select to go home.

Conservatives won’t win the above without significant broad support and there won’t be any meaningful or beneficial reform with Obama and the Democrats holding power.


96 posted on 02/10/2014 3:27:19 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
George Will is such a RINO tool. I can’t stand the guy.

The first wife found that out too!

97 posted on 02/10/2014 3:29:15 PM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: jpsb

He did make those remarks, but nice try.


98 posted on 02/10/2014 9:17:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: oldbill

People forget that Romney ran against Perry, Gingrich, Santorum and Ron Paul.

They all lied when they said they were going to fix the illegal immigration problem.

Perry signed a bill and Romney vetoed a bill.


99 posted on 02/10/2014 9:18:20 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: BradyLS

Wholeheartedly agree, not to mention 1 to 2 million drug gangsters.


100 posted on 02/10/2014 9:30:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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