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Pittsburgh Center Honoring Playwright Finds Itself Short on Visitors and Donors
NY Times ^ | 11/23/13 | Trip Gabriel

Posted on 01/31/2014 5:51:52 AM PST by raccoonradio

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Yes We Can't.

Visited there about a yr after it opened...expensive building but sparsely attended. The NYT article says that these days they make a small amount of money by renting it out on Sundays to a largely white megachurch.

Unwelcome downtown? Pitt. has a nice modern subway system, and there's fairly cheap parking nearby at the Grant St Transpo Ctr.

1 posted on 01/31/2014 5:51:52 AM PST by raccoonradio
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2 posted on 01/31/2014 5:52:21 AM PST by raccoonradio
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Yes, I never. I have no idea who that playwright is, nor have I ever cared.


3 posted on 01/31/2014 5:54:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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You're not supposed to say this, but put Eric Holder's people in charge of anything and the money just seems to disappear.
4 posted on 01/31/2014 5:54:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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Is anyone surprised? Check out Detroit. Or the corruption in charter schools in Dallas. Or Obama’s nine trillion dollar deficit spending.

The grifter class can’t handle money. It seems to disappear when in their hands.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 5:56:01 AM PST by txrefugee
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Instead, it appears to be a victim of mismanagement by its senior staff and board of directors, who borrowed to build a grand palace of culture, but failed to find a wide enough audience...

Sounds a lot like a well known disciple of Bill Ayers that I know.

6 posted on 01/31/2014 5:56:07 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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This has been a local story for some time. So it made the NY Slimes now? I can guess they’re hoping for a rich benefactor to swoop in and save them.


7 posted on 01/31/2014 5:56:49 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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I have no idea who that playwright is, nor have I ever cared.

It appears that the Heinz and Mellon foundations agree with you. I've certainly never heard of the guy, does that make me a racist? lol

8 posted on 01/31/2014 5:57:56 AM PST by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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Yes. One bit of Pittsburgh black history done well is an exhibit on Negro League Baseball in the sports section of the John Heinz History Museum. There were legendary jazz clubs
and artists like George Benson, etc.

I almost thought when I heard the name that August Wilson was the playwright of Hot l Baltimore, a short lived Norman Lear series about a flophouse. Looked up—ah, right church wrong pew. LANFORD Wilson wrote that play.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 5:58:26 AM PST by raccoonradio
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“You can’t build it and they will come,” Mr. Southers said. “Not when you’re trying to work with a community that is not traditional theatergoers or cultural consumers.”

Hasn't he called P Diddy, Kanye, Jay-Z, or Beyonce?

10 posted on 01/31/2014 5:59:48 AM PST by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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It made the NY Slimes in Nov but I had heard about the troubles some months ago, and someone at the Toonseum (a cartoon museum across the street) posted a Trib-Review article (on Facebook) about poss. auctioning off of artwork...

I do know the one time I did visit (free and worth it) I saw the names of a bunch of benefactors like US Steel but maybe they gave money to help open it...but that was it, and it didn’t make money, so..

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/5492175-74/center-art-collection#axzz2ryici5cs

>>Like Mosley, Joseph Wos, executive director of ToonSeum, had high hopes for the center.

The small cartoon museum — one of three in the United States devoted to cartoon art — opened across Liberty Avenue from the center a few weeks after the center’s grand opening.

Wos said ToonSeum put an exhibition on extended loan to the center in 2010. In a letter to Attorney General Kathleen Kane, Wos said the exhibition on loan celebrated a long-forgotten civil rights comic and “featured a timeline of the civil rights movement and the comic, along with large-scale reproductions of the entire comic.”

The center exhibited the collection in 2011 but did not return it, Wos said. Now, he is concerned that the collection, which he valued at $3,000 to $3,500, might be sold.

“There was no paperwork related to this, though that was the understanding,” Wos told Kane.


11 posted on 01/31/2014 6:01:46 AM PST by raccoonradio
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This was a disaster from concept on, Pittsburgh has tons of places to perform theater, in fact the downtown area has been completely revitalized by a multi-decade effort to create and encourage a theater district downtown.

That has all been successful, but this thing was just a turd from the get go... the issue is simply this, like it or not, african americans don’t in Pittsburgh at least, go to the theater, PERIOD. Go walk Penn Avenue any friday or saturday night and you will find it bustling with theater goers, and symphony goers, and artsy fartsy types doing gallery crawls, and you will also notice that African Americans by and large aren’t among the crowds.

Pittsburgh is still a very segregated city not by law, but by socioeconomy, most of the African American community are not in the middle or upper classes. They work in the service industry and hourly wage jobs overwhelmingly. There was no need for another theater or performing arts center beyond those that the city already had, and there was never financial support among the african american community to have one dedicated primarily for that purpose.

The only reason I think this thing got built in the first place was no one wanted to be labeled a racist by pointing out it wouldn’t work.


12 posted on 01/31/2014 6:01:46 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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I am not against a valid reason to have some venue to celebrate the works of a black anyone. For instance, I’d like to visit a place like that to see all the wonderful things that George Washington Carver did. Likewise for Louis Armstrong and the like.

But to promote a nobody (as far as I know) playwright simply because he was black isn’t something I care about. If he was somebody to care about, I believe I would have recognized him in some way or another. Even if by most standards I should have known, I really don’t care. To me, there is no ‘there’ there.


13 posted on 01/31/2014 6:03:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gay State Conservative

And Wilson had one black parent and one white parent.


14 posted on 01/31/2014 6:03:07 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Night Hides Not

“Hasn’t he called P Diddy, Kanye, Jay-Z, or Beyonce?”

That is actually a good idea, I’m sure they could all use some charitable deductions on their income tax.


15 posted on 01/31/2014 6:04:15 AM PST by jocon307
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I go to a big cartoon convention every year in the ‘burgh and love the city. Yes there is a big cultural district with places like the Benedum (a blues band I know recorded a live album there), Heinz Hall etc

>>There was no need for another theater or performing arts center beyond those that the city already had, and there was never financial support among the african american community to have one dedicated primarily for that purpose.


16 posted on 01/31/2014 6:05:08 AM PST by raccoonradio
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They took up a collection at the Kawanza celebration and netted $103


17 posted on 01/31/2014 6:05:41 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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I chalk this up to the simple fact that there are way too many specialized museums out there that focus on subjects that no one gives a s__t about. In some cases, its a shame. Symphonies are losing money left and right and having to scale down. Symphony Halls are shutting down. And these type of “art” museums are notorious for NOT attracting visitors.

Most remotely modern “art” and “literature” is crap and does not connect with the average person. So why should they come to this Wilson Center? Building this was a feel-good PC project — a museum dedicated to an African American — that ultimately no one cares about.


18 posted on 01/31/2014 6:07:14 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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It looks like they should be serving eggs & waffles inside.

Seriously though, this country has way too many museum that honor trivial crap.


19 posted on 01/31/2014 6:07:30 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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They need to tap a few more White liberals who are suffering from White guilt. They should also try to shame the back into tearing up the mortgage. After all, its racist to hold Black folk financially accountable for their actions.
20 posted on 01/31/2014 6:08:36 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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