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Vietnam is our ally?
1 posted on 01/16/2014 9:58:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. Why not? The Vietnamese are a very pragmatic people.

If we go to war with China, does that mean we get to repudiate the debt?


2 posted on 01/16/2014 10:05:53 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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We do NOT have the resolve necessary to fight war with China.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 10:08:04 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Yeah; they’re our “ally” just like Red China.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 10:08:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Right now US is de-facto ally of Red China. All the Chinese growth since 1970s was and still possibly only due to a free trade policies of US government. The problem is that both government and millions of people in US are addicted to these policies so much and you can’t do a thing to fix it without a huge blow on American lifestyle.
For that reason Vietnam, India, Japan and Russia - all the Chinese adversaries are not allies.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 10:13:31 PM PST by cunning_fish
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Basically China wants the US Navy gone from the East and South China Seas. They want us no closer than Saipan or maybe Midway.

I cannot understand why Japan even for one microsecond listens to Okinawan complaints about noise at the bases.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 10:17:08 PM PST by gaijin
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Taiwan has TWO combat-ready sub’s and her army is staffed to 30% strength.

This is suicidal and I am unsure if they take their own security seriously.


8 posted on 01/16/2014 10:19:58 PM PST by gaijin
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(1) He said that China, currently the world's second-largest economy, is about to surpass the United States in its GDP on the basis of purchasing power parity within the next decade.

Why do they need a war if they can just buy whatever they need? This reason is not a reason at all. Rich people don't wage a war against poor people; they may control them, but wars are out of style. Mr. Resnick is still waging the last war.

(2) President Barack Obama's Asia Pivot or rebalancing strategy could eventually lead to rising tensions and a potential war between China and the United States in East Asia

It cannot, for obvious reasons: Obama doesn't have the resolve to go to war with China. Or with Albania, to that matter.

(3) US security commitments to its regional allies in Asia have encouraged those allies to harden their bargaining positions towards China

The USA still has allies there? Amazing. But do not worry, Obama will quickly send the most capable head of the State Department to fix this little problem. Meanwhile those "allies," like Pakistan, are playing their own game with everyone, the USA included. India just got a diplomatic slap in the face. Japan has its hands full with Fukushima; South Korea is being barked at by North. Nobody else matters.

(4) the fourth reason is that most nations in Asia-Pacific rely on the military protection of the United States while relying on China for economic development

Everyone understands that the USA will not go to war for an ally like Taiwan. The risk is immense. They better be friends with China and India. There is no alternative.

(5) To avoid a third world war, Resnick said that decision makers in Beijing must realize that the regional balance of military power remains strongly tilted against China. They must understand that China will suffer disproportionately from any war that it starts against the United States or other regional powers.

What in the world prompts Mr. Resnick to think that China is more vulnerable than the USA? 50% of immense Chinese population is entirely immune from any war, and may not even know that one occurred. They live in poverty, have no iPhones, and no electric power. On the other hand, an attack against the USA is likely to collapse all this carefully balanced cardhouse that we know as the US society.

China may not have as many nuclear weapons as the USA or Russia. But that hardly matters. Russia won't interfere, and the USA would be ill advised to throw stones from the inside of our glass house. China only needs to negotiate the balance of power with India, and India does the same with Pakistan. Those are the only players in the arena who are active and capable (in other words, have nukes.) And it just happens that not all of them are fond of US policies. They are extremely likely to sell the USA down the river if that buys them an advantage. In general, regional power blocs have an advantage over some remote superpower who may or may not decide to get involved in a regional affair. This is doubly so if that superpower is ruled by temporary presidents who are largely incompetent. Triply so if that superpower is a paper tiger.

10 posted on 01/16/2014 10:36:13 PM PST by Greysard
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Pacific pivot.

I am thinking this is designed to happen.


12 posted on 01/16/2014 10:42:07 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Well come on look at that big strong Yen
Uncle Sam needs your help again!
Got himself in a terrible jam
Spent all the money on Unicorm ham!


13 posted on 01/16/2014 10:57:20 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Vietnam is our ally?

The Vietnamese absolutely HATE the Chinese going back a very, very long time.
15 posted on 01/17/2014 1:33:44 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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Oh, for God’s sake. There is not going to be a war because both countries are armed with nukes and are tied economically. Case closed.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 1:35:50 AM PST by Corporate Democrat
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Scary is that in a war with Communist China....we will still have Free Trade Communists supporting Free Trade with Communist China.

Anyone still supporting Free Trade with Communist China is a treasonous idiot. Keep subsidizing the enemy...

There is not a single thing Communist China produces that the US cannot produce.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 1:50:35 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; null and void
yes, Vietnam is the US' ally.

They have no long-term beef with the USA

On the contrary, they have a 2000+ year hatred with the Chinese

18 posted on 01/17/2014 2:59:37 AM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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21 posted on 01/17/2014 4:20:16 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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24 posted on 01/17/2014 11:27:44 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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