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I guess using this judge's logic, Oklahoma's gun laws should be recognized by every other state.
1 posted on 01/14/2014 8:07:48 PM PST by optiguy
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Good lord


35 posted on 01/15/2014 12:02:29 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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Sodomy must be celebrated. This is the new law in the USA.


37 posted on 01/15/2014 12:40:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: optiguy; P-Marlowe; narses; little jeremiah; scripter; Girlene; onyx; jazusamo; Frumanchu; ...

According to many, this is the basic question we must answer in a compelling manner:

How does Mary Bishop and Sharon Baldwin being married hurt me and my marriage?

My one line answer is: Gay marriage makes my culture more dangerous.

Is there a better answer than that?

Of course, we could reject the above question as the basic question.

Tony Perkins, of the Family Research Council, doesn’t seem to accept that as the basic question. He said, “(this judge) is substituting his own ideology for the three-quarters of Oklahomans who voted to preserve marriage in their constitution as it has always been defined.”

He sees it as perhaps: “Why should one ideology rule over another?” (That could be framed better.)

While I think he is right, that approach hasn’t gotten any traction over the last decade or so. But, it that reason to give up on that approach.


46 posted on 01/15/2014 5:44:42 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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There’s a storm coming.

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


67 posted on 01/15/2014 8:12:58 AM PST by Jeff Head
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U.S. District Judge Terrence Kern is a traitor to this country and if justice were to prevail he would be treated as a traitor. Since this will not happen, I can only wish him the worst (cancer would be fitting)


74 posted on 01/15/2014 9:35:24 AM PST by ohioman
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Many Gay marriages will self-destruct even more than heterosexual marriages. Mark my words on this date. It may be years, but their lifestyle is not workable.


75 posted on 01/15/2014 11:47:01 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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When perverts become judges, expect the perversion of justice. A pervert in a blackrobe, is still a pervert.


77 posted on 01/15/2014 12:15:24 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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Per the court’s (incorrect) equal-protection logic:

1. Can the state license ANY activity? (Hunting, fishing, practicing law, practicing medicine, practicing hair cutting, practicing family counseling, practicing psychiatric care, etc.)

2. Isn’t the state’s licensing of marriage inherently unconstitutional, as the license assumes applicants want to get married to each other, and establishes criteria which the applicants must meet, thereby “creating” a class of individuals who don’t want to get married to each other and do not meet the required criteria (and therefore, presumably, suffer from unconstitutional discrimination on equal-protection grounds)?

Example: The state licenses rabbit hunting with slingshots in March, for those who desire to hunt rabbits, and are willing and able to do so with slingshots in the month of March. Per the court’s reasoning, this state licensing is unconstitutional, as it (supposedly) excludes those persons who desire to hunt squirrels with shotguns in April. And per the court’s reasoning, the state license to hunt rabbits with slingshots in March SHOULD ALSO ALLOW squirrel hunting with shotguns in April (or any other animal with any other weapon in any other month).

Example: The state licenses 17 year-olds who pass a written test and a driving test to drive Volkswagons on the streets and highways. Per the court’s reasoning, this excludes those persons who’d prefer to drive Volkswagons on the city sidewalks, and those who’d prefer to drive Mopeds on the interstate, and those who’d prefer to do so at age 15, and those who’d prefer to take no test. Per the court’s reasoning, the driving license should be immediately extended to those who prefer to drive on sidewalks and those who prefer to drive tricycles on the interstate.

Example: The state licenses the practice of hair-cutting. Those who want to be beauticians happily apply for this license, pass some sort of test, and receive their hair-cutting license. This discriminates, of course, against those who desire the hair-cutting license to allow them to practice clinical psychiatry. The courts who claim that the marriage license allowing a single man to marry a single woman discriminates (somehow) against a lesbian woman who desires to marry another lesbian woman do inherently, by their decision and reasoning, extend the license of hair-cutting to those who want to practice psychiatry.

Bottom line: Bans on gay marriage are not equal-protection issues. Gay persons have EXACTLY the same rights to marriage, or to hunt, or to fish, or to become a practicing psychiatrists, as heterosexuals, or duck hunters, or lawyers, or fishermen, or fifteen year old teenagers. A gay man is free to marry a lesbian woman. A gay man is free to marry a heterosexual woman. A lesbian woman is free to marry a heterosexual man. A lesbian woman is free to marry a gay man. Heck, a lesbian man is free to marry a gay woman, or even a heterosexual psychiatrist. Their rights are equivalent.

If we want to extend the marriage license to marriages where a male marries a male, we can do so, but we can’t be compelled to do so for equal-protection reasons.


83 posted on 01/16/2014 10:03:23 AM PST by mbarker12474
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so does this mean equal protection covers ccw for nyc visitors? chicago? california?


84 posted on 01/16/2014 10:07:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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We need to take back the Supreme Court, was never intended for them to have the power we have allowed them.

A good Christian Conservative could perhaps run for President with this platform

Other than that, Militia Time


85 posted on 01/17/2014 9:07:30 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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Here’s the failure in logic... These judges are ascribing the rights of INDIVIDUALS to COUPLES. Each individual in this farce already has equal rights, even if the couples do not. The fourteenth amendment does not guarantee equal rights to couples, or any other plurality.


89 posted on 01/17/2014 12:32:20 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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The constitutional amendment approved by Oklahoma voters says marriage in the state consists only of the union of one man and one woman. Kerns said the measure violates the U.S. Constitution's equal protection clause by precluding same-sex couples from receiving an Oklahoma marriage license.

Stupid, and/or dishonest ruling. This is declaring language to be unconstitutional- which it is not. The Oklahoma amendment is redundant - two men or two women cannot be husband and wife - by definition. A man cannot be a wife, and a woman cannot be a husband - and a wife cannot be a wife without also having a husband, and vice versa. That's language - that's reality. It is what it is.

91 posted on 01/17/2014 10:34:33 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Not that I support violence but I am surprised more Judges aren’t attacked.


95 posted on 01/19/2014 6:42:01 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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Terrence is indicative of how corrupt and stupid our entire system of courts and justice has become. His ‘logic’ adds to the feeling that the central socialist government octopus is much like Spain in 1936k.

Oppression and utter disregard of the rights of states to govern.


98 posted on 01/21/2014 8:48:55 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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