Posted on 01/13/2014 10:13:45 AM PST by xzins
Thats exactly where we are, Beck said. Every election, (we say) were not going to vote for one of those guys.
But when the time comes, conservatives always rationalize that the Republican nominee is at least better than the Democrat, and get sucked back in.
Its time to stand up and say what you mean, mean what you say, and accept the consequences, Beck said, encouraging people to be honest, decent, and true to their beliefs.
can’t argue with true words . it is time for all good men to come to the aid of their (party) COUNTRY
Learned your lesson on associating with 0bummer yet?
The only way to win, is not to play that game
I did learn a lesson about wasting a vote for Romney
well let’s see I believe that O won the last election and there were lots of conservatives who sat out the presidential portion of the election. They said no way will I vote for the lesser of two evils. It is good to have O for another four years because THEN we will realize what needs to happen.
We are reaping the results of that thinking we have O for another four (who knows maybe for ever). The reason the lefties win is because they take a hal a loaf or a quarter of a loaf and keep pressing.
I am all for a conservative nominee for the GOP to be president but please let us not engage in trying to find ‘the perfect’ candidate when we can in fact have a ‘good enough’ candidate. We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.
Hey Glen, welcome to the party. Better late than never.
Now about the gay thing...
The Tea Party/Conservative vote got split between too many candidates, allowing the GOPe candidate to be the last man standing. How do we stop that from happening again?
I think the last election proves that conservatives, at least, are waking up. If the GOP runs the same type of establishment figure they did in '08 and '12 then we'd better get used to seeing Her Royal Thighness and The Great Stainmaker back in the WH.
Only caveat is that Christie fired the people responsible and apologized. Not making excuses, but no one is ever held responsible in Obama administration and it is always someone else’s fault. One may not support Christie because of the abuse and I have no problem with that, but as of yet, no one has shown Christie is on par with Obama.
Beck is right. Christie sets the tone.
agreed .
Romney wasnt ‘good enough’. He was a political twin of the lib he ran against and all his voters empowered the GOP leftward.
That’s the result of lesser evil voting. See the past 30 years for one example after another. Hopefully enough people learned the stupidity of lesser evil voting.
No, not all of us rationalize things and get sucked back in. Many of us do reach a breaking point, where we refuse to sell our souls. It happened to me in 2012.
Move all primaries to a 45-60 day window and rotate which ones go first.
It is impossible to deny that Romney turned to the left and intentionally rejected social conservatives. At various times he supported gay unions, gay adoption, gay scout leaders, gun control, big government health care, and crony capitalism. It is simply undeniable.
Do you honestly think he and his team did that accidentally? It was a STRATEGY. The Romney team strategy was to peel off liberals/moderates from Obama who might have had other issues with Obama.
This was no accidental slip of the tongue on his part. It was throughout his campaign. The strategic thinkers told him that he'd peel off enough liberals to balance the social conservative that he offended.
And the results of this intentional strategy was:
1. The liberals voted for Obama anyway.
2. He succeeded in offending millions of social conservatives who TOOK HIM AT HIS OWN WORD.
So, it is only shallow analysis that lays this at the feet of social conservatives when it was Romney's strategic team who came up with this idea in the first place.
It didn't work. It's his fault. In the same way as Custer was responsible for bad strategy at the Little Big Horn, Romney was responsible for bad strategy in the 2012 election. We can blame others for Custer's epic fail, but he was the leader who engaged at the wrong time, the wrong place, and in the wrong way.
Agree , but with a few minor differences. First off the father of Romneycare was no conservative. Second, progressives don't settle for half a loaf in their candidates at least. Their candidates may mouth a few "moderate" positions (i.e. 0bama's original "rejection" of homosexual marriage and single payer). In the end though he's always believed in those things, he's just saying what he needs to peel away a few Democrats who still have a conscience. He was and always will be a Marxist radical.
Policywise, yes they will settle for half a loaf (the 0bamacare trainwreck in order to get to single payer) , but they never lose sight of the main objective and above all they NEVER let their scandals bog them down. The point is our side needs to reject the McCain's and the Karl Rove candidates who are only in it for their own power.
I agree and a solution to this would be great.
Looking at the US Senate, the exception might be Jeff Sessions. He seems pretty solid in understanding and supporting constitutioanl conservative values.
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