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To: xzins

well let’s see I believe that O won the last election and there were lots of conservatives who sat out the presidential portion of the election. They said no way will I vote for the lesser of two evils. It is good to have O for another four years because THEN we will realize what needs to happen.

We are reaping the results of that thinking… we have O for another four (who knows maybe for ever). The reason the lefties win is because they take a hal a loaf or a quarter of a loaf and keep pressing.

I am all for a conservative nominee for the GOP to be president but please let us not engage in trying to find ‘the perfect’ candidate when we can in fact have a ‘good enough’ candidate. We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 10:22:38 AM PST by Nifster
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Romney wasnt ‘good enough’. He was a political twin of the lib he ran against and all his voters empowered the GOP leftward.

That’s the result of lesser evil voting. See the past 30 years for one example after another. Hopefully enough people learned the stupidity of lesser evil voting.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 10:27:24 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nifster
We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.

It is impossible to deny that Romney turned to the left and intentionally rejected social conservatives. At various times he supported gay unions, gay adoption, gay scout leaders, gun control, big government health care, and crony capitalism. It is simply undeniable.

Do you honestly think he and his team did that accidentally? It was a STRATEGY. The Romney team strategy was to peel off liberals/moderates from Obama who might have had other issues with Obama.

This was no accidental slip of the tongue on his part. It was throughout his campaign. The strategic thinkers told him that he'd peel off enough liberals to balance the social conservative that he offended.

And the results of this intentional strategy was:

1. The liberals voted for Obama anyway.

2. He succeeded in offending millions of social conservatives who TOOK HIM AT HIS OWN WORD.

So, it is only shallow analysis that lays this at the feet of social conservatives when it was Romney's strategic team who came up with this idea in the first place.

It didn't work. It's his fault. In the same way as Custer was responsible for bad strategy at the Little Big Horn, Romney was responsible for bad strategy in the 2012 election. We can blame others for Custer's epic fail, but he was the leader who engaged at the wrong time, the wrong place, and in the wrong way.

17 posted on 01/13/2014 10:33:33 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Nifster
We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect. We got Romney and folks stayed home.

Agree , but with a few minor differences. First off the father of Romneycare was no conservative. Second, progressives don't settle for half a loaf in their candidates at least. Their candidates may mouth a few "moderate" positions (i.e. 0bama's original "rejection" of homosexual marriage and single payer). In the end though he's always believed in those things, he's just saying what he needs to peel away a few Democrats who still have a conscience. He was and always will be a Marxist radical.

Policywise, yes they will settle for half a loaf (the 0bamacare trainwreck in order to get to single payer) , but they never lose sight of the main objective and above all they NEVER let their scandals bog them down. The point is our side needs to reject the McCain's and the Karl Rove candidates who are only in it for their own power.

18 posted on 01/13/2014 10:34:31 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Nifster
We watched Romney and fellow conservatives chew up and spit out any one who wasn’t perfect.

I don't require perfect; but there's absolutely no sense in voting for Obama's political clone.
I voted for former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, the Libertarian party's candidate, who is far, far better a candidate than Romney.
I would have gladly voted for Ron Paul, had he won the nomination. (And I had no problem with the others: Sanatorum, Gingrich, etc.)

I promised myself after voting McCain (2008) that I would never again "hold my nose" and vote for a candidate: voting Romney would violate that promise.

23 posted on 01/13/2014 10:48:24 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nifster
I didn't sit out...and neither did my close family.

That said....Romney was/is a loser...just like McCain was/is a loser, Just like Dole was/is a loser!!!

Just like the GOPe is a LOSER....

Which takes me to this....The DIM's and the GOOBER's are in this together....( there's no other way to conclude, really...) and nothing short of rebellion by American citizens will stop this.

I predict we all will be fighting amongst ourselves next POTUS election...once again. Because we will have a undesirable candidate tied around our necks again...

I hope I'm wrong.

50 posted on 01/13/2014 4:15:53 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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