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$12 an hour is conservative rocket fuel, says Ron Unz
The Daily Caller ^ | January 10, 2014 | Neil Munro, White House correspondent

Posted on 01/11/2014 6:37:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A nationwide minimum wage of $12 per hour would shrink government, aid families, curb illegal immigration, spur high-tech investment, and boost GOP support among working-class voters, says Ron Unz, the California libertarian entrepreneur who wiped out his state’s Spanish-only K-12 classes.

The $12 wage would slash the huge taxpayer subsidies now given to companies that hire low-wage immigrants, and move tens of millions of Americans into the middle class and sharply reduce the 47 percent of the population who are now completely or partly dependent on federal handouts, Unz told The Daily Caller.

“Politics would be completely different… what you’re doing is reducing the 47 percent by 10 to 15 points and giving Republicans a chance to make their case about cutting government spending and reducing taxes,” he said.....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; economy; minimumwage; smallbusiness; unemployment
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1 posted on 01/11/2014 6:37:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ok. Would $25 an hour do these good things twice as fast?

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2 posted on 01/11/2014 6:40:35 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You cannot gain prosperity by requiring people to pay employees more than they are worth to the company.

This is about as anti-liberterian a message as I have ever seen. It is a statist claiming to be a liberterian, or someone who is simply economically ignorant.

What would really happen is that those jobs that did not produce $12 an hour or more of value would be done away with, less value would be produced, and everyone would end up poorer.


3 posted on 01/11/2014 6:41:28 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Question it’s basis in reality.


4 posted on 01/11/2014 6:41:30 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Its, not it’s ... Sheesh, I know better.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 6:42:38 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just who calls Unz a “Libertarian?” He sounds like a social engineering aficionado.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 6:42:54 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Captain Compassion

And $50/hour four times as fast?


7 posted on 01/11/2014 6:42:58 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He may be right, I don’t know. I do know that there are taxpayer subsidies now given to companies that hire low-wage immigrants. You may get cheat produce, but you pay the difference in taxes.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 6:43:24 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What kind of Libertarian touts a minimum wage as a positive?


9 posted on 01/11/2014 6:43:50 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Captain Compassion

$25 dollars an hour would produce the same results more than twice as fast, because $25 is more than twice $12.

It would be even better to make the minimum wage $100 an hour. Then everyone could live an upper middle class life./S

You obviously understand the economics, but lurkers may not.


10 posted on 01/11/2014 6:43:59 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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This is not conservative or libertarian. He is asking for a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour.

A lot of low-wage jobs would simply vanish for one thing.

A lot of lesser skilled workers would be replaced too.


11 posted on 01/11/2014 6:44:54 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Kozak

“What kind of Libertarian touts a minimum wage as a positive?”

Either a fake one or a very confused one.


12 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:21 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they make it $500/hour, California will be a paradise!


13 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:23 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Federal Government has no authority to order a minimum wage for anyone other than federal workers.


14 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:30 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: T. P. Pole

If you make it $100/hr. I’m all in, baby!


15 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:33 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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and boost GOP support among working-class voters

No it wouldn't. They would hate the GOP when they asked for a $25 minimum wage and the answer was no.

Why do the GOP want to make the democrats (working class???) happy and not the conservative working class?

Perhaps the GOP would be happier being DNC?

This won't make The Chamber of Crony Capitalism happy.

16 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:54 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: T. P. Pole

Unz was 31 years old when he ran as the ‘conservative’ against the RINO Gov.-Pete Wilson. Slapped him down in a radio debate. Now look at what he’s become!


17 posted on 01/11/2014 6:46:57 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Barack sh!t!


18 posted on 01/11/2014 6:46:59 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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Why not make the minimum wage $50 an hour?

Another idiot who doesn’t realize that the higher the minimum wage, the less competitive US business is.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 6:47:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Temporarily, it could work. There’s no doubt that the working class wage buys less today than it did 40 years ago.

The problem you would create is a driving up of inflation. Eventually the increase in minimum wage will be wiped out.

But there’s a benefit to that as well - wages will catch up and suddenly your fixed rate mortgage is taking less of your income.

The good news is that the market will correct itself over time anyways, so why not do it?


20 posted on 01/11/2014 6:47:40 PM PST by MeanGreen2008
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