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Is global warming behind polar vortex?
The Hill ^ | January 6, 2014

Posted on 01/07/2014 2:23:32 AM PST by SMGFan

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To: SMGFan

Global Warming seems to explain everything -— from hot to freezing cold temperatures.

If something explains everything, it explains nothing.


61 posted on 01/07/2014 7:34:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SMGFan

Rush Limbaugh pointed out that “Polar Vortex” is a brand new term to describe an ordinary event, to make it sound special.

So I have a great idea. A few years ago, in the southwest US, they tried to rename dust storms the rather silly sounding Arabic name of “haboobs”, as if they were somehow different from the very ordinary dust storms that everybody knew.

So here’s the idea: Let’s start calling this thing a “Polar Haboob!”, just turning it into a laughingstock of an idea.

“Better put that Polar Haboob in a brass brassiere!”


62 posted on 01/07/2014 7:52:07 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Rush Limbaugh pointed out that “Polar Vortex” is a brand new term to describe an ordinary event, to make it sound special.

He's wrong.

Brian Wilkes here in Indiana has been using that term for 20 yrs on local weather broadcasts. I remember if from the 1994 cold spell.

63 posted on 01/07/2014 7:56:27 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: NELSON111

Thanks for clearing that up. I always thought they were related. And the Clipper would move at a good clip!(pun intended) My brother would say “The Hawk is flying tonight!”


64 posted on 01/07/2014 8:00:24 AM PST by Sweating_Bullets (You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.)
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To: NELSON111
The clipper is more of a meso-scale feature...which means its over an area less than 1000km wide....and its fast moving. The polar vortex is a synoptic scale pattern....which means it is on the continental scale...and it can sit and spin for days.

Fascinating.

65 posted on 01/07/2014 8:07:10 AM PST by ELS
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To: SMGFan

The ignorance of the citizenry is astounding. I can’t wait for the first idiot I encounter who brings up Polar Vortex as if it’s some new weather phenomena.


66 posted on 01/07/2014 8:15:22 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Rebelbase

Same here...I can’t wait to unload on such idiocy!


67 posted on 01/07/2014 8:17:36 AM PST by halo66
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To: NELSON111

The trick in medium-long range forecasting (in winter) has ALWAYS been trying to figure out how far south the polar vortex would get dislodged.

Does that coincide with the warmers meme that the vortex was split up? Can’t figure that one out!


68 posted on 01/07/2014 8:20:55 AM PST by Sweating_Bullets (You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.)
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To: Sweating_Bullets
No problem. I admire it from afar here in SE Texas...where we get a decent snow once in a lifetime. Much more likely to have ice than snow. The Gulf of Mexico really does a number on the temps and even if its cold at the surface...it usually keeps our mid-levels too warm for snow formation.

but if you ever want to watch something amusing...watch people in Texas drive on ice/snow....just make sure you are safe :-)

My freshman year at A&M we had an ice storm and we sat on the balcony of our dorm and watched the wrecks on University Dr. The cold kept the beer cold...so it was a win win....

69 posted on 01/07/2014 8:21:28 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: nascarnation

Meteorologists have used this term for a long time...it is because the national media have started to use the term that it is a brand new term.


70 posted on 01/07/2014 8:24:33 AM PST by halo66
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To: NELSON111

Ha! Was stationed at Kelly back in ‘75 when it snowed one day. It was a hoot! Must have been 20 cars spun out on Military Drive.


71 posted on 01/07/2014 8:30:46 AM PST by Sweating_Bullets (You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.)
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To: SMGFan

The MSM is responsible for the “Bull$hit Vortex”


72 posted on 01/07/2014 9:14:05 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; DaveLoneRanger

GW Ping...


73 posted on 01/07/2014 9:18:40 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: SMGFan
How about converting the kinetic energy of mixing air masses (AKA "Prevailing winds") into electricity and bird chowder?

That just might have an effect on the efficiency of the global thermal distribution system, causing more marked differences in the characteristics of air masses, leading to more energetic storm events when the air masses finally do mix.

Oh. That would be an eco-heresy. I'd be burned at the stake saying for that, carbon footprint be d@mned. (Then they'd all run off to plant trees in penance).

74 posted on 01/07/2014 9:50:27 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Lazamataz

Extinction of the dinosaurs, Bush’s fault.


75 posted on 01/07/2014 10:51:13 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: bill1952

People are self-replicating.


76 posted on 01/07/2014 10:55:23 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

How big is this rock going to be that is 1/1,300,000th the size of the light bulb?


77 posted on 01/07/2014 3:53:22 PM PST by abclily
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To: NELSON111

The term “polar vortex” has been a meteorological term LONG before I started forecasting...and that was almost 27 years ago. It’s used just like the term “jet stream” or high pressure is. It’s a commonly heard term in forecast discussion during the winter. The trick in medium-long range forecasting (in winter) has ALWAYS been trying to figure out how far south the polar vortex would get dislodged. Every time (and let me repeat that with EMPHASIS)....EVERY TIME it has EVER gotten VERY COLD in the US...it has been because of the polar vortex moving south and buckling the jet stream...which pulls the arctic/siberian air southward. And MOST times it is accompanied by a warm up in Alaska and western Canada...because to move the polar vortex south...you need a big ridge of high pressure to form to its west (normally).
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Ahhh, thank you. I was going to write something similar. But you phrased in just right, IMO.

Being out here in WA state....we’re getting the benefit of a bit warmer weather. One of many reasons I’m happy to live out here in the great PNW.


78 posted on 01/07/2014 4:25:14 PM PST by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: Into the Vortex

That’s ok, I’m not Polar


79 posted on 01/07/2014 5:58:10 PM PST by Vortex (Garbage In, Garbage Out)
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To: SMGFan

The Polar Vortex has been there for all known history, as far as I know. It’s just an ongoing phenomenon where frigid, upper-altitude air converges, sinks, and then diverges (spreads out) near ground level. It is part of the general atmospheric circulation patterns.

Occasionally, this vortex (and the associated surface-level high, where the air diverges) will migrate to an area like Russia or the Great Lakes. In this instance, it has apparently split into two vortices, which have moved to Russia AND the Great Lakes. Judging by the current weather forecast for my area, the darned things will eventually become one again over the North Pole.

It is my admittedly non-scientific opinion that Global Warming doesn’t have a goddamned thing to do with this cold snap.


80 posted on 01/07/2014 6:35:27 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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