Pope: 'Authentic' Islam opposes violence

WND ^ | 11/26/2013 | Bob Unruh

[FR_addict]

Pope Francis’ insistence in his new apostolic exhortation that “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Quran are opposed to every form of violence” is drawing negative reviews from some analysts of the religion who point to the Islamic holy book’s calls to wage war against nonbelievers.

“How does he know that? When did he become an imam?” wonders columnist Pamela Geller.

She notes as an example the Quranic passage that states: “So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks.”

“At a time when Christianity worldwide is under siege by Islamic jihadists, the leader of the Catholic Church claims that the Quran teaches nonviolence,” Geller writes. ...

[Charles Martel]

The Pope is spreading propaganda about Islam and I find that disturbing. Priests in the Jesuit order are highly educated, so it's not like he doesn't know.

Education is not always a force for good. The Jesuits are the vanguard of the "social justice" academic crowd that steers its own course; their paths intersect with traditional Catholicism only when they find it convenient or beneficial to do so.

[ClearCase_guy]

Well said.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The peace may be temporary, in other words. If they think there is any time to take over the world by fleshly domination of force, then it ain’t peaceful.

You won’t see any aspiration of believers like this in the New Testament. Christianity says only God may (directly) conquer the world.

[Sheapdog]

Buddhism isn’t peaceful. Only the Western version people are sold. Entirely good Buddhists have lopped off heads and done horrible things in the past all in the name of Buddhism.

[MrEdd]

Either book. It is not as if there were only one.
Westerners beeing genally too lazy and too generally half assed in their scholarship to study Islam does not obviate the Hadith.

[RetiredTexasVet]

I wonder who told him that .... a reliable source?

[Arthur McGowan]

There have been worse Popes.

We are just going to have to hunker down and get along without a “real” Pope for a few years. (I am not a sedevacantist. I just mean that we’re going to get a lot of bilge and a lot of bad bishops.)

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I think S. America's Socialists might have influenced the new Pope more than we think. His comments on “trickle down” betray a dislike of free markets.

[plain talk]

Why is the Pope pretending that it is a religion of peace?

I don't know. But he seems to have a habit of saying something stupid almost every time he opens his mouth. Just another day.

[deadrock]

Authentic ‘capitalism’ takes money from those who earn and gives it to those who don’t.

[SpaceBar]

The deadening influence of Islam is well demonstrated by the way in which the Musulman comports himself at different stages of his life. In his early childhood, when the religion has not as yet impregnated his brain, he shows a very lively intelligence and remarkably open mind, accessible to ideas of every kind; but, in proportion as he grows up, and as, through the system of his education, Islam lays hold of him and envelops him, his brain seems to shut up, his judgment to become atrophied, and his intelligence to be stricken by paralysis and irremediable degeneration. - André Servier, 20'th century French Algerian historian

The Pope is out to lunch

[HiTech RedNeck]

Buddhism was mentioned as hypothetical.

True, Christians had the Inquisition, and...?

I think we need to look deeper into what is the claimed basis of anyone’s theology before we can comment on it. But it’s known that in Islam, the ones who are not generating active trouble now still believe there will be a time to do it. And that’s entirely in fitting with the Koran. If there’s a similar belief in root documents of Buddhism, it is beyond where I have delved. If you know of such Buddhist theology in root documents, tell me where to find it. In case I meet someone who has gone gaga over that faith.

[Patriotic1]

Oddly enough, the Pope HAS spoken and preached about the devil and sin. That's something that hasn't gotten enough press.

But yeah, I can't see how he can really say this.

[Patriotic1]

Thank God for Cardinal Burke.

[Bryanw92]

That’s my point. You are assuming that the Pope is not affected by the mental disorder called Liberalism. Once a person commits to the progressive cause, all other things become secondary. A liberal Catholic can say that Islam is peace and they can say it with a heart that believes it because they are ruled by their ideology.

I had a progressive pastor (United Methodist) a few years ago and he was a devout Christian, right up until Christianity disagreed with the progressive dogma. If there was a conflict, the progressive “truth” always came first.

Remember that, for a Progressive, all facts begin with the words, “I believe...”. Francis wants to believe that Islam is just Christianity in a different language, so that becomes his truth.

[cloudmountain]

My husband and I lived in Saudi Arabia for FIVE years and I worked with 30 Saudi men during that time. I wasn't EVER subjected to ANY kind of conflict, coercion or rhetoric.

In fact, I went to daily Mass on our little compound, taking 20 minutes off from work every weekday atg 9:00 A.M. (Saturdays-Wednesdays) to go across the street to Mass. Saudi ARAMCO had hired a priest, vicar and reverend for us Christians.

The one who threw a HISSY fit when I did that was my CATHOLIC Indian co-worker. My BOSS, Mohammed (of course), told him: "Harry, God is number one. There is always time for God. CloudMountain (not my name of course) can go to pray whenever she wants." So I did.

I started the habit of daily Mass in Saudi Arabia, thanks to my VERY kind Muslim boss and continue it today. I would have NEVER done so with him.

God works in mysterious ways, even--especially in Saudi Arabia.

[.45 Long Colt]

Don’t blame Christians for the Inquisition. Only heaven knows how many true Christians were slaughtered at the hand of Rome’s Inquisition.

[Starstruck]

Pope be idiot is still my stance. Convince me otherwise.

[cloudmountain]

Yes, the Cardinal is quite wonderful.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And, I don’t. I’m just saying that bad things happening in the name of this faith or that faith don’t tell the whole story of their official theology. (Or good things, for that matter.)