Posted on 01/01/2014 5:37:27 PM PST by MNDude
Original post (December 30) -- Around 9:30 a.m. on December 7, University of Minnesota-Duluth student Alyssa Jo Lommel, 19, was found nearly frozen to death on a neighbor's porch. She'd apparently spent the entire night outside while temperatures dropped as low as 17 below zero.
THE BACKSTORY: UMD student Alyssa Jo Lommel tweeted about tequila shots before she was found freezing
More than three weeks later, Lommel remains hospitalized. Her condition has been upgraded to fair, but according to her family, doctors still haven't told her how bad her injuries are.
Her doctor "felt that today it would be good to just tell her about the amputations,"
The doctor "also told her how lucky she was just to be alive, but I really don't think any of that sunk in," Teri Lommel continued. "It took her several minutes before she looked at any of us. Then she started to slowly cry."
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It’s like God needs you to teach the lesson here?
Looks like reality slapped her in the face well enough. You do not need to add to that. That is the dictionary definition of gratuitous.
The Jews were a blessed people even in their chastening exile.
Haman flouted that at his own peril.
SOMETIMES those we see deeply chastened are those whom, if we could see with eternal eyes, are already bought by the blood of Christ.
Mocking at them for whatever folly that may have occasioned their immediate fall, will blow back on the mocker. Big time. I think that’s going to happen to a couple of folks (at least) on this thread, if they do not repent and deem God’s actions to be enough. Because they are volunteering to be Satan.
She’s 19 years old and drank too much.....you never did?
Be a little more compassionate, bro. Most of us made bad decisions in our youth; usually we didn’t lose limbs over them.
I have no problem with using the incident as an object lesson. whatever would make you think you needed to advocate for that. However, making an object lesson out of this poor girl does not preclude mourning her limbs with her.
I'm curious, have you never made a stupid mistake and got lucky? If a son or daughter made a similar mistake and ended up paying the price, would your heart stay so firm? Is it a universal attitude or just a 'it doesn't affect me or mine so the hell with them" attitude?
Very nice post, and it nicely expresses my sentiment as well. Thanks for your well considered post.
When I was pledging to a frat (yes, stupid), the brothers challenged the pledges to drinking contests. We were drinking Kool-Aid spiked with grain alcohol. They were drinking Kool-Aid.
it was the dead of a Massachusetts winter, and some guys tried to walk back to their dorms. They found one guy passed out in a bush. He could have ended up like her.
True enough.
But predictably we have seen on this thread blame lobbed at everyone from the guy who gave her a ride home to the sleeping neighbors.
There isn’t enough blame to go around. She was an adult.
Even on this supposed conservative site, when I pointed out that she is old enough to be halfway through a military tour that brought derision from the eternal childhood contingent.
How bad do they want never to face the concept of personal responsibility?
Bad enough to attack those of us who point out the young woman created her own predicament whilst nary a word to those pouring coals on the neighbors and the guy who did try to help her.
Look, I was in Infantry AIT at that age. But that’s not for everyone thank God. I don’t hold the Army up as something to emulate. We were trained to perpetrate horrors on uniformed strangers.
Additionally I wouldn’t say that Army culture is a good healthy culture for the rest of people going through life. In fact, I joined the Army so people could act like big old babies at home if they wanted to.
But empathy, sympathy, is a good thing as long as your job doesn’t include killing and being killed by others. Lets face it the Army will as soon zip you up in a body bag as pin a medal on you, or both. It’s not an empathetic organization, and it cannot be that.
But I can’t turn a cold eye on human failure. People do stupid things all the time, to themselves and to others. The whole earth groans with afflictions. I can feel sad and that doesn’t make me less of a man. In fact feeling is good. It lets a person know they are alive.
Being cold and logical all the time has it’s place, but not in this instance. I will save my cold rationality for when the SHTF. I still have it. I just don’t want to use it until I have to.
As in the Jimmy Buffet song,....” A permanent reminder of a temporary feeling.”
I once met a young person who had an amputation above the knee. He and his teenage friends were jumping trains.
I am very sorry for this young woman. Hopefully, she will have acquired wisdom from this experience and turn it for her good and those around her.
Feeling sympathy does not have to equate to attacks on the other people who were in the vicinity when this happened.
You can be sympathetic without resorting to that.
And a counter attack on the people defending the neighbors and the guy that gave her a lift does not show how kind anyone is.
When I was a child, big winter storms were followed by the ice and snow in parking lots being plowed. Now that is no longer done here because if someone still falls in spite of the effort the business which cleared the ice can be sued. So we have a more dangerous environment as a result of that blame sharing mentality.
I am not glad she got herself hurt, but the responsibility is hers alone and trying to hoist some of the blame for that off on other people...is really making an unwarranted attack on other people.
I didn’t attack the other people involved in the story. The guy that drove her home, or the people at the party. I don’t recall seeing that. Other than some comments that the guy who drove her home will have to live with what happened. He didn’t verify that she got into her house after all. But it is what it is at this point I guess. He should have walked her through her front door. But he didn’t. He lives with that memory.
How about a little love and grace? Aren’t we supposed to care about people? Jesus said the greatest commandment was to love God with all our being. The second greatest is to love our neighbor as ourselves.
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Perfect.
Jesus gave his life for our salvation. Thank God he didn’t give us what we deserve.
Prayers for this young woman and her family.
I keep wondering how this girl must have felt/reacted when she woke up with her limbs in such a terrible condition. It’s very hard to think about.
I doubt she reads this thread. She will never feel slapped by anything written here. You have no idea how other people reacted that was not posted. Maybe they thought the other posts already had that covered. Maybe some people take stuff too seriously.
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