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NTSB: Hawaii plane floated 25 mins, then sank.
AP via Star Advertiser ^ | Dec 31, 2013 | AP via Star Advertiser

Posted on 01/01/2014 3:18:25 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo

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To: Venturer

I’m not aware of any information being released, I believe the autopsy was conducted 2-3 weeks ago(???)


21 posted on 01/01/2014 5:05:22 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

"One of those annoying little single engine Cessna planes that fly advertising banners for "Hooters" and "Bud Light" crash landed after its engine failed right into the water off a crowded beach in San Diego over Memorial Day Weekend."


22 posted on 01/01/2014 5:12:56 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

I thought AIR force one was bigger oh wait.


23 posted on 01/01/2014 5:28:57 PM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: JoeProBono

That’s not a Cessna.


24 posted on 01/01/2014 6:03:55 PM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: RckyRaCoCo

They just needed to make sure she was really dead.


25 posted on 01/01/2014 6:28:32 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Jane Long

Thought so all along too..


26 posted on 01/01/2014 6:58:14 PM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

No, that was probably an accident


27 posted on 01/01/2014 7:32:27 PM PST by PAR35
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To: LucyT

Dead men tell no tales.


28 posted on 01/01/2014 8:02:38 PM PST by thecodont
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To: gaijin

She was holding on to her assistant’s hand and then she went limp
Where was his hand? Around her neck? Holding her head under water? No one is asking those questions. His statement may be correct but is he innocent? Who has the most to gain other than O?


29 posted on 01/01/2014 8:38:19 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: JoeProBono

That was not a Cessna in the water.


30 posted on 01/01/2014 8:41:43 PM PST by cpdiii
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To: BenLurkin; vette6387; mazda77; Doogle; freekitty; Foolsgold; IrishMike; Nachum; justiceseeker93; ...

Anyone know if the rescue team was told to “stand down” Benghazi style?


31 posted on 01/01/2014 8:51:54 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Venturer

Thought maybe the Wikipedia article on her might give an answer to that — but there is NO Wikipedia article for Loretta Fuddy.

Is it just me — or does that seem very odd?


32 posted on 01/01/2014 9:23:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Thought maybe the Wikipedia article on her might give an answer to that — but there is NO Wikipedia article for Loretta Fuddy.

Is it just me — or does that seem very odd?”

I’m almost certain that there was still a Wiki article on her Wiki right after the crash and that it included mention of her death from the crash.


34 posted on 01/01/2014 11:04:04 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

The only Wiki mention of Fuddy’s death tonight, Jan. 1, 2013, is footnote #150 on the Wiki’s monthly, day by day list of deaths for the year. The footnote links only to a stub article on the Hawaii Department of Health. Indeed it seems that somebody’s been aggressively cleaning online house.


36 posted on 01/01/2014 11:13:04 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

“That’s not a Cessna.”

To the idiots in the media every small aircraft is a Cessna!


37 posted on 01/01/2014 11:27:54 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Maybe so, but she is a non-person on Wikipedia today.

Search her name and it redirects to Hawaii Dept of Health.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Loretta_Fuddy&redirect=no


38 posted on 01/02/2014 5:42:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo; justiceseeker93; skip2myloo

It took 80 minutes for the rescue team to get there? I can only spend a few minutes online today so I can’t check this out for myself, but weren’t there news reports within an hour after take-off, saying there was one casualty - a fact that should only have been known after the rescue team had been there?


39 posted on 01/02/2014 7:09:16 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion; skip2myloo; justiceseeker93

Couldn’t resist checking myself. What I posted earlier:

I found an even earlier report of the crash, at 4:25 Hawaii time, at http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24198982/breaking-small-aircraft-crashes-off-kalaupapa?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Hawaii Health Official Killed in Plane Crash
Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:16:27 PM · 74 of 142
butterdezillion to WildHighlander57

The crash was reported at 4:40pm Hawaii time, at http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/makani-kai-plane-crashes-off-molokai/-/8905354/23442094/-/139fxot/-/index.html
but it was not yet known who was killed. The crash happened about 3:45 so that report wasn’t even a whole hour after the crash occurred, much less was reported to the airport tower and fire and Coast Guard crews out to make the rescues.

>>>>>

Looks like either the NTSB is screwing up/scrubbing the timeline, or else somebody reported a fatality before there was one. Or maybe both.


40 posted on 01/02/2014 7:19:42 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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