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NTSB: Hawaii plane floated 25 mins, then sank.
AP via Star Advertiser ^ | Dec 31, 2013 | AP via Star Advertiser

Posted on 01/01/2014 3:18:25 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo

The National Transportation Safety Board says in a preliminary accident report that a small commercial plane that crash-landed in Hawaii waters floated for about 25 minutes before sinking.

(Excerpt) Read more at staradvertiser.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alicedewey; alicedeweybio; birthcertificate; certifigate; fuddy; hawaii; industrialdemocracy; lid; naturalborncitizen; subud
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To: Fred Nerks

This thread is an amazing thread.


281 posted on 01/10/2014 9:08:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Fred Nerks
This thread is an amazing thread.

We are seeing parts of an amazing tapestry of lies. One day we will be able to step back and see the lie in its entirety.

282 posted on 01/10/2014 9:18:00 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont; little jeremiah

Plane crashes, woman dies, survivor films and takes selfie
CNET ^ | 10 January 2014 | Chris Matyszczyk

Posted on Saturday, 11 January 2014 8:52:43 AM by The Sons of Liberty

A month after a small plane crash in Hawaii, a surviving passenger shows GoPro footage and even a selfie taken during the ordeal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3110483/posts


283 posted on 01/10/2014 9:20:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Adding what appears to be passenger number seven from the article provided in the link.

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot————Clyde Kawasaki, age 60
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., age 70, swimmer, from Kailua.
Passenger # 6 Ferdinand Puentes, onboard impromptu videographer.
Passenger # 7 Rev. Patrick Kililea. Comments as to witnessing Fuddy’s release from Yamamoto.
Passenger # 8

http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/01/10/the-strange-death-of-hawaiis-department-of-health-director-loretta-fuddy/


284 posted on 01/10/2014 9:37:11 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

Spelling error... Kililea (sic)

Killilea corrected.


285 posted on 01/10/2014 10:21:42 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

Rev. Patrick wasn’t on the plane. He gave her the last rites on land and was repeating what her deputy director told him about what happened.


286 posted on 01/12/2014 6:23:14 PM PST by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson

Leave it to freepers to set the record straight. That’s a compliment by the way. I figured it was a long shot and would let the chips fall where they may. Fleshing it out, as we do, and all. One or two names to go?


287 posted on 01/12/2014 7:12:53 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Fred Nerks; thecodont; little jeremiah; LucyT

Reminds me of JFK, Jr’s crash and then buried at sea!!!


288 posted on 01/16/2014 10:46:02 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Brown Deer

Didn’t take long, that link not only doesn’t go anywhere, it drops out the internet explorer connection. Can you connect or not?

Or is there something about Dewey we’re not supposed to know...


289 posted on 01/22/2014 12:44:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

Don’t know about the current status of the link but it has been archived:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130610060132/http://deweycenter.siu.edu/pdf/CHRONO.pdf


290 posted on 01/22/2014 3:15:54 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

thanks, still don’t get anything, just a blank page and my mouse freezes. Does the content open for you?


291 posted on 01/22/2014 3:32:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

The archive opens no problem, I didn’t try the original link.

Rather than open it in the browser, try saving it via right-click. Then open the saved pdf.


292 posted on 01/22/2014 3:36:38 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: butterdezillion
Water Temperature of Hawaiian Islands Averages about 77*.

At that temperature you're not at immediate risk of hypothermia, and it's possible you can survive a long time. An weak old person, not swimming but just floating might still end up getting hypothermia, but even that's gonna take a while. It would be important to know the water temperature and the length of time they were in the water.

293 posted on 01/22/2014 4:11:02 PM PST by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: butterdezillion

294 posted on 01/22/2014 4:11:41 PM PST by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

bkmk


295 posted on 01/22/2014 9:40:07 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: little jeremiah
lj, you are referring to alkyl nitrates--AKA "poppers" and not limited to the homos but also used in club scenes.

Among the medical risks source:Alkyl nitrites are interactive with other vasodilators like sildenafil (Viagra), vardenafil (Levitra), and tadalafil (Cialis), to cause a serious decrease in blood pressure, leading to fainting, stroke, or heart attack.[12]

These drugs cause a sudden and severe decrease in blood pressure. source

Next questions: (these drugs are not likely to show up in an autopsy)

Did Fuddy have a history of heart problems or irregularities?

Was fuddy on a vasodilator medication for blood pressure issues?

Was Fuddy's "heart problem", if one existed, exacerbated through the administration of "poppers" while in the water?

296 posted on 01/26/2014 3:21:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Interesting connection. Breitbarted in the water.

I knew nothing about “poppers”, just read about their use, and IIRC, a sicky sweet smell, and the “incense” smell reported at the Dem Convention odd interlude noted by Kuwata.


297 posted on 01/26/2014 8:55:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: freepersup

Freepersup,

Add puentes to that list in slot #6.... but we still don’t know who #7 and #8 are and what they were doing there.

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot————Clyde Kawasaki Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy,age 65,Hawaii State Health Director. Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto,Fuddy’s Deputy Director. Passenger # 3 Rosa Key,wife of Jacob Key,from Oahu. Passenger # 4 Jacob Key,husband of Rosa Key,from Oahu. Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr.,age 70,swimmer. Passenger # 6 Passenger # 7 Passenger # 8

http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-survivor-plane-lost-power-then-glided-185711326.html


298 posted on 01/28/2014 12:39:24 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Right-oh. Up thread Ferdinand Puentes gets added. Lots of photos to ID the passengers too. #7 and #8 are spotted in a process of elimination. I think they remain unknown. I haven’t finished reading the latest posts. You might jump around, or jump to the end and scroll backwards for a quick look see. The thread was churning pretty fast for awhile. The heavy hitters freepered up, and the esteemed Fred Nerks provided exemplary data mining as he is known to do.

Take care.


299 posted on 01/28/2014 1:20:07 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Now removing what appears to be passenger number seven (Rev. Patrick Kililea/Killilea) from the passenger list. The site consensus (FR) seems to be that the clergyman who was annunciating what has been attributed to him, was done in the process of greeting others upon their return to land, in an act of comfort.

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot————Clyde Kawasaki, age 60
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., age 70, swimmer, from Kailua.
Passenger # 6 Ferdinand Puentes, onboard impromptu videographer.
Passenger # 7
Passenger # 8


300 posted on 01/28/2014 1:32:13 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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