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Workers at auto dealership come face to face with Obamacare trade-offs
NBC News | 12/29/13 | Lisa Meyers

Posted on 12/30/2013 10:17:09 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/29/21893911-workers-at-auto-dealership-come-face-to-face-with-obamacare-trade-offs


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I was in the car business for 20 years and this is no surprise to me. If this is already posted, sorry this is my first attempt.
1 posted on 12/30/2013 10:17:09 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/29/21893911-workers-at-auto-dealership-come-face-to-face-with-obamacare-trade-offs


2 posted on 12/30/2013 10:19:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Bottom line here is that this report is in line with everything else we have heard about obamacare. a few people come out ahead. most are losers.


3 posted on 12/30/2013 10:22:51 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Many are discovering what they voted for and they will not like it.
They bought int to the ‘You can keep your plan...” lies and will be exceedingly resentful and outright angry at what Obama has done to them and their lives and families.......................


4 posted on 12/30/2013 10:23:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

....as he likes to say, “make it hurt”


5 posted on 12/30/2013 10:24:40 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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“They bought int to the ‘You can keep your plan...” lies and will be exceedingly resentful and outright angry at what Obama has done to them and their lives and families.......................”

and will vote for Hillary to express their ire.


6 posted on 12/30/2013 10:25:05 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Red Badger

they won’t blame their messiah instead the evil greedy insurance companies will be blamed. Do not be naive they would all vote for Him again.


7 posted on 12/30/2013 10:25:35 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: ckilmer

The difference here is that a good salesman is constantly in touch belly to belly, by phone, or thru the mail with many times, thousands of people, that know and trust him. Could stir the pot big time. Happy New Year!


8 posted on 12/30/2013 10:26:44 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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Among the hardest hit is Campbell, a salesman with a wife and three young children, all of whom are active in athletics. The premium payments currently deducted weekly from his paycheck will increase $77, to a total of $221 per week. “That’s a huge part of the budget,” he said. “We feel betrayed, lied to, and we're pissed off.”

Hmmm... I wonder who Mr. Campbell voted for. It is a new year I will be magnanimous and not devolve in a schadenfreudeic rant...

9 posted on 12/30/2013 10:30:18 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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I expect zero to suspend nearly everything until after the presidential election

People will forget about it and buy into the "it's dead" lie, only to have it resurrected later, fiercer than before.

There is only ONE course the politicians should take and that is the COMPLETE elimination of every word that even hints at lucifercare.

Absolute, complete obliteration !

10 posted on 12/30/2013 10:30:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

I feel for those whose eyes weren’t clinched shut during the last 3 elections. But for those who blindly followed Obama, like the guy who said “We were lied to. We were betrayed.” That statement tells me he believed the democrats. So, boo-bammy-hoo.

I also wonder why the business owner decided so late to tell them. He knew this was coming for a long time.

And this is just one small business. Millions more are about to drop the hammer. And many will go out of business. 2014 is not going to be a good year.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 10:30:43 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: longfellowsmuse

Car people are among the most conservative you will ever meet. Think about it, nearly everyone is paid by what they produce, in sales, parts, and repair. They are blunt, to the point people and will tell it like is. They didn’t vote for Obamacare. Only the detailer and other low wage peons would have bought into this bull.


12 posted on 12/30/2013 10:31:04 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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“Trade-offs”

LOL. Gotta love that NBC spin for Obama. If by “trade off,” they mean “rip off” or “getting screwed” or “paying more and getting less,” then I guess they’re right.


13 posted on 12/30/2013 10:32:16 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Red Badger

Many are discovering what they voted for and they will not like it.


And most of the discovery will come in 2014. You think 2013 was bad for Obama? Just wait.


14 posted on 12/30/2013 10:33:01 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: ckilmer

The ones that come out ahead are those whose salaries are low enough that they get subsidies.

Guess what those who do not receive subsidies lose two ways. Their insurance goes up along with their deductibles, AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PAY FOR THE SUBSIDIES in increased taxes.


15 posted on 12/30/2013 10:33:16 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: taildragger

Our health insurance payments are down to zero now, thanks to Obamacare.

That is, we no longer have health insurance. We’re performing without a net.


16 posted on 12/30/2013 10:34:05 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Perhaps they didn’t vote for him and perhaps they did…impossible to know but regardless we are stuck with him and so are they. I only meant that the people that did vote for him would do so again because they really believe in his magnificence and all problems are surely caused by someone else.


17 posted on 12/30/2013 10:36:19 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

The article doesn’t comment on the tax implications of the $2,400 annual stipend. If it is treated as income, these employees will find their health care costs even higher.


18 posted on 12/30/2013 10:40:47 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
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The biggest winner is Brandon Chisholm, a detailer with two daughters, who will get health insurance for the first time, and will have to pay virtually nothing for it because he qualifies for a big government subsidy. That means he can bank the $200 a month the company is giving workers to replace the health insurance it previously provided.

Asked if he was excited at the prospect of getting nearly free coverage on top of the cash stipend, he replied, “Oh yeah! Anything that can help me and my family out, that’s what I’m going to do.”

His first question will be, "What's a deductible?"

19 posted on 12/30/2013 10:43:50 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: taildragger

No, please do ‘devolve’. But whatever you call it, people need to have their actions rubbed in their faces. Hard.

Because maybe then they will remember. Like a puppy whizzing on the carpet, they need their noses Liberal anyway.rubbed in it. Nothing for us to lose. They will likely vote


20 posted on 12/30/2013 10:45:23 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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