Posted on 12/30/2013 5:09:11 AM PST by Kaslin
** feminists have won, although not because they were more persuasive. Only 12 percent of moms believe that working full time is an ideal situation for children, and 74 percent of adults say that mothers working outside the home makes it harder to raise children. About half of adults surveyed believe that children are better off if the mother does not work. **
How can they say the feminists have won when the figure convey the opposite side of the coin? LOL!
**Some real men haters on this thread.**
Evidently they don’t remember that God created man first.
Exactly what does an addiction to porn entail?
Yet women still wear make-up, spend inordinate amounts of money on shoes, clothes, and hair, as well as unabashedly qualify prospective suitors by their own appearance....
A couple of us took it upon ourselves to study these figures a little more in depth to post on our department bulletin board. Without breaking a sweat, we found women used more health insurance, sick days, personal days, commuted shorter distances, put in less overtime and all the things you mentioned and, most of all, actually did different work which they considered the same (being a flag girl on road construction site is not the same as tying rods and laying payment no matter how much they might wish it was) . . . and showed the real figure was more like 93 cents per dollar. We noted, with a little deeper research, we could probably find the additional seven cents.
But the point was made back in 1984. My, how they hated our fact heavy bulletin board which made their emotion heavy bulletin board look cheap and whiny.
Yes, and that is any woman’s choice of course. But if a woman chooses to wear makeup, nice clothes, shoes and hair, spending obscene amounts on same, and also “unabashedly” objectifying potential suitors, a man, a real man, should not use this as an excuse to objectify women.
That is my point really, thank you for giving me an opportunity to make it again in other words.
Netting only $10K from a combined income of $150K is not worth that both husband and wife work imho
If each family, individually, considers its options realistically, there are a lot of different arrangements that can work. You (a general “you”) shouldn’t let other people tell you what is best for you.
That would be a difference of $10K between a gross income of $75K and $150K. We were netting $10K on a marginal income of $75K.
My point is that “objectification” is like attention deficit disorder, porn addiction, and the glass ceiling; just another in the long string of women’s efforts to pathologize that which they find distasteful, inconvenient, or threatening.
The term “objectification” is overused in our society, much the same way ADD, the “glass ceiling” and porn addiction. One must be careful though to not equate over use with triviality.
For example, objectification does exist in many forms, not just in the hyper-sexualization of women (and children). We can and do treat our fellow man as objects to be used if we, say, view our co-workers at an office as something to be used to advance our career and nothing else. Even quid pro quo relationships of any variety are a form of objectification if we forget or dismiss the other’s humanity.
Specifically also porn addiction. Porn addiction does exist. It’s certainly not the case of a young man (or woman) viewing porn once or twice in one’s life, or even as an adult, like at bachelor parties or as part of men’s room “trash talk”’conversation. While undignified, these are not examples of porn addiction.
If a man (or a woman) is viewing porn on a regular basis, every day or every other day, as part of some kind of routine, then this IS objectification and quite possibly an addiction.
Again, only Christ can help with such slavery. And it is a form of slavery, enslavement to base desires, which debase and dehumanize those afflicted. I can only say it’s truly not a way to live, and truly there is a better way to live, more fulfilling than any porn website. That better way to live is in communion and friendship with Jesus.
I speak from my own experience. There is no question in my mind that what I have written here is the truth, no question not because of what I read or what someone told me, but because I’ve lived that life and now have a better one thanks to Jesus Christ, my Lord and my God. Not through my effort alone, but through His help, my life is better.
Through this experience I can see now how I was addicted, and I pray every day He will not let me return to that enslavement.
If the story is about “Mommy Wars” why does the lead photograph feature a grandma? :)
When my youngest daughter was about a week old, I took her to our doctor’s office to be weighed. (My mother is always worried that the babies are starving to death.) Before we left the hospital, the baby needed to eat, so I sat in the lobby to nurse her. There was a blanket concealing most everything, but both my hands and no bottle were visible, when a lady sat down next to me, smiled, and said, “What a sweet little baby! Is it your granddaughter?”
I misunderstood you.
Now, the question is...are women responsible for men becoming softer or are men turning from their leadership role?
Men can not lead women who refuse to follow.
Hence the clarification, with my apologies for a lack of clarity.
True leaders lead.
This currently fashionable "leading from behind" philosophy is a load of garbage.
Your comment is a non sequitur.
Again, how does one lead those who refuse to follow?
Can two walk together lest they be in agreement?
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