Posted on 12/17/2013 10:36:21 AM PST by Mount Athos
People need to review the videos from the DHS checkpoints (40 miles from the border) ..... in every one I’ve seen, despite bullying tactics, calling supervisors, etc., every person who politely refused to comply and kept their comments mostly to those below, was eventually allowed to proceed. I would think this would work here. DNA swabbing? REALLY? I don’t think so.
Am I being detained?
Am I free to go?
What is your probable cause?
Am I being detained?
Am I free to go?
Since they claim it is a private company you should be within your rights to sue them for breach of your constitutional rights to be secure from search and seizure.
A class action suit would be very costly for them.
They’ve got to populate that giant database in Utah with something.
And use it to determine who gets what sort of medical care.
Since they claim it is a private company you should be within your rights to sue them for breach of your constitutional rights to be secure from search and seizure.
A class action suit would be very costly for them.
“To Intimidate and Extort”
Find a nasty-face lawyer and go for it.
I like your questions. It’s hard to believe they are doing this is Texas—but it is what it is.
I’ve written your questions on a card, and have it in my car. I will also have to inform the cop that I am armed, which is the law in Texas.
My latest Capitol Report:
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Nina Dean (my assistant) was informed that there was a checkpoint on Highway 79 requesting DNA samples from Missouri citizens. She drove out to the site but did not see a checkpoint. Later, Nina was told that the checkpoint had been completed before she got to the location. My assistant called me and apprised me of the situation. On Saturday, I talked to the OFallon Police Chief and he knew nothing about it. After more investigation by Nina, it was determined that the St. Charles County Sheriff was who set up the roadblock.
My assistant talked to the Sheriffs office and they explained to her that it was just a checkpoint for the 2013 National Roadside Survey (NRS) of Alcohol and Drugged Driving. The 2013 NRS is the fifth in a series of national roadside surveys of alcohol-, and now drug-involved driving that have been conducted about every 10 years since the 1970s. The overall objective of the 2013 NRS is to estimate the prevalence of alcohol and drugs (illicit, prescription, and over-the-counter) in drivers on our Nations roadways. The data collected will provide information critical to problem identification and program development efforts in coming years. She continued the discussion with them and they promised to investigate it further.
After more investigation, the St. Charles County Sheriffs office came to the conclusion that they had been duped. They realized that more was going on than just checking alcohol and drug levels in drivers. In fact, swabs of cheek cells and blood draws had been made. The sheriffs department sent my office the paperwork that was sent to them and nowhere in the paperwork does it state that they will do this. In fact, it states, They have passive alcohol sensor devices that they activate for every potential subject to help make an assessment of impairment. A Data Collector will signal a Survey Manager if they suspect a driver is impaired. The Survey Manager will make his/her own assessment and decide if the survey should continue and if the Impaired Driver Protocol should be implemented. This protocol calls for the Survey Manager to request a breath test (if needed) with a PBT that displays the BAC and then offer these choices: 1) Let a sober, licensed passenger drive after breath testing with a PBT that displays the BAC; 2) Call for two friends to come to the site; one to drive the subjects vehicle; 3) Offer to pay for a taxi or tow ride home, and making arrangements for the safe parking of subjects vehicle if needed; 4) Let subject wait and re-test if BAC is relatively low; 5) Allow subject to walk if the distance is short and BAC is below .08 or below (lone females must be accompanied by a team member); 6) Pay for a hotel if the subject lives far from the survey site. Therefore, the organization who contracted with the Sheriffs department was giving the impression that they were just using breath analyzers and not collecting DNA samples. But now we know that is not true.
Once again, we are witnessing Federal overreach in our state. To end this, I will be proposing legislation to make sure this never happens in the state of Missouri again. Never should our trusted law enforcement agents be put in the situation where they violate the rights of Missourians. If you have any questions, please call my office at
Thank you,
Kurt Bahr
A DNA sample?
Sure, the instant you show me a warrant signed by a judge that names me specifically, details the crime you are investigating, and why you think you have probable cause to remove parts of my body in the course of investigating that crime.
I’ll wait.
I have plenty of spare time.
I have so much spare time, I could easily spend years in court pursuing a civil rights violation under color of authority case.
What was your name and badge number again?
Who is your supervisor?
Who ordered your department to engage in a mass illegal warrant-less search and seizure operations?
Yes, this is just a trial run.
I never believed that Xlinton would try to stay in office past his expiration date, but with the bunch in DC now...I believe that they are testing the waters to declare the the entire constitution as unlawful.
A few weeks ago there was a thread about this happening in Texas.
“Councilman Dennis M. Sterner was livid that government can’t pick up local drug dealers without a two-year investigation, but can stop motorists at random.”
Kind a tells you who the feds think are a danger.
And who gets to be an organ donor should they be a perfect match when one of our betters needs a new ticker...
Yup.
Papers Citizen!
Frog, pot, water, flame.
Just your Nanny State governments testing how much oppression everyday citizens will take if it is meted out in slowly increasing amounts.
They already have most people peacefully allowing themselves, their children and grandparents to be felt up, scanned by X-rays and endure cavity searches just to ride on an airplane.
And on a related note, don’t forget the DHS has stockpiled billions of rounds of ammo. WONDER WHY???
The SOB in the white hut has three more years folks. If you’re not worried, you should be.
Because of this thread I'm getting a dashcam with audio.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...
I’m stealing that pic for my Tinnitus Ring List!...............
They’ll just arrest you for causing a civil disturbance, and collect the DNA anyways.
Now that arrest DNA samples are golden in the database FOREVER it will amount to the same thing.
Even if you do win in court and get money, they’ll still have your DNA.
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