Posted on 12/17/2013 3:41:47 AM PST by Wanderer99
Edited on 12/17/2013 8:58:28 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
A 13-year-old Northern California girl will be taken off life support Tuesday after she was declared brain dead following complications from surgery to remove her tonsils.
KTVU-TV reported Monday that the head of the pediatrics department at Children's Hospital Oakland had told the family of Jahi McMath that the girl would be pulled from life support because she had been declared dead under California law.
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I guess it comes down to a situation of “money decides” ... in all situations (government funded care or independently funded care).
What a sad story. I'm sorry for your loss.
I'm sure we know so much more about diabetes now than we did in 1953, but diabetes is not usually a disease that requires an immediate interaction or insulin injection. The number of insulin units a person receives should start smaller, and then the doctor should increase them gradually, if needed.
Of course, the early insulins were derived from animal products, and who knows what else. It's possible your cousin had some kind of allergic reaction.
I think the statistic should be 250,000 die in the hospital each year.
“BUT they get the same kind of ‘worthless care’ ... :-) “
unfortunately they get to have the best care.They get to choose their doctor male or female, they demand their own special food, preferably hallal.
We have to take what is given without complaints.
In all my experience, the doctors, nurses and other workers are totally ignorant as to what a person’s coverage is - when they are taking care of a person’s medical condition in a facility. If I am in one hospital room and someone else is in another room - we will all get the same level of care for what the facility and doctors deliver normally.
When my dad was in the hospital (numerous times) - he not only would get food choices, but adjusting the temperature of his room, and having a translator there, too - plus getting the same kind of general care that the others received in the facility.
I doubt that the doctors and nurses and the facility adjusted their care of patients - when they are there - according to the source of funds. I can’t see or even believe that when seeing this little girl, they would deliver her only 75% of the normal level of care - and then when they saw another patient getting “free funds” - would then deliver to that person 100% of the level of care.
I rhink you better talk to the doctors and nurses and ask them if they adjust the level of care according to whether the funds are free or not - and thus if they are receiving those free funds they get the top level of service, and if it’s another plan - they deliver only a percentage of the service they are capable of delivering ... LOL ...
Health care providers don’t modify their care based on insurance coverage. They do, apparently, based on the nature/severity of the illness. I remember reading a study in which terminally ill patients had to ring their call buttons much longer than those patients who were less well. It was a fairly well known study.
No, I think it was negligence, or incompetence. My cousin was sent home from school for vomiting on Wed. The doctor refused to see her. By phone he said she “probably had polio”. My uncle had her admitted to the hospital on Sat. The hospital made the diagnosis. The doctor (who was now there) ordered the insulin and then rushed off to a business appointment. My uncle begged him to stay because she didn’t look good. She died an hour later. The attending nurse is the one who said that the dose was too high.
My aunt and uncle did not sue because you didn’t sue your doctor in 1953. They had known the doctor all their lives. This doctor had a record of slipping out the back door when one of his patients was dying and refusing to face the family. But, my aunt refused to hear a word against him for the rest of her life. They did change doctors, however.
I was 2 years older and remember how hard it was for Karen to recover from that tonsillectomy. She was sick for weeks (end of the summer), and I never saw her again. She lost a lot of weight, but everyone thought it was just because she was a budding teen ager.
“The Troublesome Tonsil”.
It was a pro/con paper on whether to have the surgery, or not. I tried to be unbiased, but I came down on the con side, except for unusual circumstances. My conclusion was that tonsillectomies (in 1956 when I wrote it) were prescribed too frequently as a panacea — that your tonsils provided the first line of defense against illnesses and that you were better off with them than without them!
The funny thing is that everyone who was taking Sr. Physiology had to write a research paper about some illness. Also, everybody taking college bound English had to write a research paper with footnotes, etc. Somebody talked our English teacher into allowing us to re-write our Physiology papers and turn them in for English credit. That poor woman was a wreck after reading all of our papers on illnesses. LOL She said she’d never be the same again!
My husband and I run an electronics business, although I know that at least 3 of my classmates from those same classes did become doctors.
One of the reasons that I chose the topic was because of my cousin’s death — the other is that no one else wanted that topic and I had full access to all of the books and periodicals in the library. I had a classmate who used to deliberately find out what I was going to write about and then check out all the books on that topic and keep them out until after the papers were due. May he rest in peace!
and what if this girl does not die when the machines are switched off?
will the doctors be asked to dehydrate and starve her even if she opens her eyes and begs for it?
Re your post 26, I guess I just lucked out.
If children are dying because of this then I hope the Muslims murder all the leftists in those countries. May the leftists be slaughtered in this one as well.
If the government ever killed a member of my family, I would instantly turn into a mass killer. Vengeance would be my only reason to go on living.
You should have executed them for incompetence. Does the culprit still live? If yes, why?
This happened in 1953. The person who should have taken action against this doctor is the husband whose wife was slain by this doc during fertility treatments in his exam room in (about) 1946. The doc slipped out the back door and let his office staff deliver the bad news to her parents and her husband who were in the waiting room. The treatment involved blowing air into her falopian tubes, and the air got into her blood stream instead, killing her. I’m sure he died of natural causes.
If that ever happens to my wife or child, I would give the doctor the option of either committing suicide on the spot or me decapitating him on the spot. There will be no bothering with the legal system because I would have no need for money after that.
excerpt from link: McMath had gone to Children’s Hospital Oakland on December 9 to have her tonsils removed to cure a sleep apnea problem. Sealey told KTVU that McMath had trouble breathing and suffered “an enormous amount of bleeding” after the procedure. Then, on Thursday, McMath went into cardiac arrest, and was declared brain dead.
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This child had an outpatient procedure and Monday and would normally go home the same day yet she had massive bleeding and cardiac arrest on Thursday...
It’s hard to tell if she was discharged or held for observation so will wait for more facts.
Either way, if a patient ever told me they were afraid of dying...surgery cancelled if elective. Bless this little girl and her family.
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