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...Winter driving warning” and “Another way to stay toasty on long trips without running heat,” where owners recommend winter motorcycle wear and snowmobile suits.

Duh...why didn't I think of that ???

1 posted on 12/14/2013 3:59:05 PM PST by chiller
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Who said liberalism is a disease ? Savage, I think.


2 posted on 12/14/2013 4:00:05 PM PST by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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LOL what a bunch of morons.


3 posted on 12/14/2013 4:03:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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So with the heat turned up those forty mile electrics can only go to the end of the block.


6 posted on 12/14/2013 4:08:27 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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I never thought of a car without a normal heater.
7 posted on 12/14/2013 4:08:37 PM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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“...turn up the heat — a function that also puts a draw on the battery uncommon during other seasons.”

Doesn’t high AC use in FL, TX, AZ etc summers, do the same draw to the battery?

My 2002 Grand Cherokee ‘Laredo’ has a vastly smaller battery than an electric car, and doesn’t suffer in any month, from either high ac or heater usage. Why would a vehicle which is 10-15% battery, run-down so fast?

Just wondering.


9 posted on 12/14/2013 4:13:44 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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I can safely predict that there will *never* be an electric vehicle in my driveway.And as far as hybrids go I *might* consider a *diesel* hybrid but *never* a gasoline one.


17 posted on 12/14/2013 4:20:52 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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How about a pallet of hot hands hand warmers


19 posted on 12/14/2013 4:22:20 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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The Tesla, like most electric cars, is a rich person’s toy.

As for the Tesla being attractive and fast, there are a lot of beautiful and fast sedans once that $100,000 neighborhood is reached. The Porsche Panamera is about the same size and price.


21 posted on 12/14/2013 4:24:00 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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I suppose they could always carry a gasolene heater
with them of course a wood stove would be greener.


23 posted on 12/14/2013 4:27:02 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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I own an 85 kwh Tesla Model S.

I can get up to 300 miles of range.

20% reduction if it is really cold if you preheat the car while it is plugged in.

Worst case scenario is 230 miles of range if it below freezing and you have to warm the car on the road.

Norway has the highest per capital Tesla ownership in the world.

Money to fuel my car does not bolster the international price of oil and get filtered to Iran, Russia, Venezuela, and Al Qaeda.


25 posted on 12/14/2013 4:28:21 PM PST by Reaganez
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Not only that, the average winter driver tends to turn up the heat — a function that also puts a draw on the battery uncommon during other seasons.

I'm not defending electric vehicles, but this line is bull. The average summer driver tends to turn up the air conditioning - a function that also puts a draw on the battery uncommon during other seasons.

26 posted on 12/14/2013 4:28:43 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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Cold drains batteries. The Pope is Catholic. Bears crap in the woods.


30 posted on 12/14/2013 4:31:25 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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In January of '11 I drove my diesel up to northern Quebec (well north of Montreal) and spent the night.When I arrived at 7PM it was -10F and when I started out at 8AM next morning it was -31F.The thing started like a champ and after about 15 minutes on the road I started to get some heat (diesels warm up more slowly than gas engines).Soon after you wouldn't know there was anything unusual going on...the thing ran like a top.

My guess is that a Tesla wouldn't have done nearly as well.

31 posted on 12/14/2013 4:31:43 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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Well, the article provides a simple solution:

If drivers can carefully plan their charge times and stops, the problem can largely be avoided.

It only means that instead of getting into your car and driving to the store where you need to buy a certain item, you need to fire up your computer first, start Google Earth, and schedule your trip in great detail. You have to check the temperature along the route, and all possible detours that you may be forced to take, and all possible traffic problems (current or future.) You must also account for the time of the day because headlights need power too. The state of the road surface also matters - is it dry, wet, icy, or has snow on it. Finally, you need to calculate the temperature of the battery pack along the route; specifically, account for the time that you spend at the store because the car will cool down. (Make sure there are no lines to the cash registers.)

This can't possibly take more than an hour or two of your time. But certainly "Saving the Planet" is worth it. Once you are armed with all that knowledge you can then figure out if your luxury car can make it there or not. If it can't, stay at home. Tell yourself that you didn't really want to go anyway. If it can, go to your destination, and hope that nothing ever goes wrong. Have a phone number of a friendly towing service at hand.

34 posted on 12/14/2013 4:35:59 PM PST by Greysard
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Summer driving in hot states will produce similar results.

Air conditioners will drain the batteries & hot batteries can explode.


36 posted on 12/14/2013 4:36:40 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Postal delivery trucks in Fairbanks have an additional propane powered heater due to the fact of the cold,often colder than -40F, window has be open for delivery a lot.
Other than its just a plain stupid idea even operating an electric car in the cold there is the option of fabricating a camping heater, I know I could as I fabricate stuff like this all the time.
Now my 2012 Chevy Equinox has a 2.4 Direct Injected engine, Flex Fuel, E85 compatible, and that little engine cranks out a TON of heat, even last week when I saw -17F it was so efficient I had to constantly turn it down.

I would not mind owning a Tesla sports car but like my motorcycles I ride them seasonally only in Alaska, same for the electric, its only good in temperate weather periods. Which means its only good for about 4 months of the year.


51 posted on 12/14/2013 4:52:50 PM PST by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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I would suggest a coal stove myself.


54 posted on 12/14/2013 4:55:19 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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“.Winter driving warning” and “Another way to stay toasty on long trips without running heat,” where owners recommend winter motorcycle wear and snowmobile suits.”

The DUH moment .... why not just buy a motorcycle?


66 posted on 12/14/2013 5:11:53 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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electricity,
or OPEC oil.

take your pick.


73 posted on 12/14/2013 5:21:48 PM PST by RockyTx
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1. Gasoline-burning heaters instead of electric heaters.

2. Electrically heated suits like those that were used in the old WWII unpressurized, unheated B-17s. Heat only the driver, not the whole cabin.


84 posted on 12/14/2013 5:38:27 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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