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1 posted on 12/11/2013 6:54:47 PM PST by Mount Athos
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You can never trust a TARPer.


2 posted on 12/11/2013 6:57:16 PM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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This is the other side of the coin. The tax increases that WILL come to pay for this spending.


3 posted on 12/11/2013 6:58:30 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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In 2008, we had a terrible presidential candidate, but at least we had a real Conservative running as veep.

In 2012, both the top and the bottom of the ticket were Big Government losers.

By all rights, 2014 should be a big -- big -- year for the GOP. But why bother? I'll do my bit in the primaries, but when Nov comes around, I will not be supporting any Liberals, even if they are "the lesser of two evils".

4 posted on 12/11/2013 7:00:04 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Ryan is a tool hungry for attention. He’d serve anyone willing to stroke his ego and satisfy his desire to author the greatest economic plan ever known to mankind.


5 posted on 12/11/2013 7:01:10 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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RE :”The process is quite complicated, but in practice it grants Harry Reid the authority to send tax increases to the House with a bare majority, rather than the 60 vote threshold that would be required under the point of order.
The provision has angered key Republican Senators. Reeling from Harry Reid’s unprecedented use of the “nuclear option” to end the filibuster on presidential nominations, they are incredulous that Paul Ryan would have backed another limit to their power. “

Maybe the GOP should take the Senate back 2015 and change the rules to pass tax CUTS on a simple majority.

Not much is passing in House after this.

6 posted on 12/11/2013 7:04:20 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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100% sellout.


8 posted on 12/11/2013 7:05:17 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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Obama must have some kind of juicy file on Ryan. He’s turned into a Fabian stooge.


9 posted on 12/11/2013 7:05:32 PM PST by I got the rope
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Ryan is naive.


14 posted on 12/11/2013 7:08:42 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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Getting your clock cleaned by somebody like Rimshot Joe Biden during a debate would really mess up your brain. Ryan seems to have never recovered.


15 posted on 12/11/2013 7:12:41 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you think signing up for ObamaCare was fun, wait until you try to use it.)
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Ryan has been proven to be retarded.

Let the TEA Party primary him.

16 posted on 12/11/2013 7:15:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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Ryan isn’t stupid. He’s a fraud.


19 posted on 12/11/2013 7:19:35 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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he was already dead to me, he can’t be any more dead.


20 posted on 12/11/2013 7:21:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Don’t they fund Obamacare for 2 years in this? How can they say there are no tax increases? Obamacare is one big, fat, painful TAX.


35 posted on 12/11/2013 7:47:08 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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The provision has angered key Republican Senators. Reeling from Harry Reid’s unprecedented use of the “nuclear option” to end the filibuster on presidential nominations, they are incredulous that Paul Ryan would have backed another limit to their power.

I wonder if he even knew what he approved.

Evidently, the Murray-Ryan bill is several hundred pages and this detail was buried in the small print.

In the Ryan-Murray bill, the change is found on 17-18 in the legislative text, where the bill sets up a “deficit neutral reserve fund” and incorporates 57 individual sections of the Senate Democrats’ budget as having “force and effect.” The process is quite complicated, but in practice it grants Harry Reid the authority to send tax increases to the House with a bare majority, rather than the 60 vote threshold that would be required under the point of order.

That's not an excuse, of course. But it dramatizes that the 'Rats will do anything and everything to secure an advantage, while the Repubs simply aren't paying attention and don't seem to realize they're in a fight to the death.

42 posted on 12/11/2013 8:00:30 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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If the govt can print money, what are taxes for? Hmmmmm?


43 posted on 12/11/2013 8:02:04 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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Paul Ryan is outed.

He’s a tax increaser. Remove him from office now.


44 posted on 12/11/2013 8:15:45 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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More stupidity from the Stupid Party, No surprise, really.
46 posted on 12/11/2013 8:20:48 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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From the article: “House Republicans would never approve a tax increase.”

I gotta thank them for the belly laugh. Yeah. Suuuure they wouldn’t. Just like they wouldn’t play duck and cover for deathcare.


54 posted on 12/12/2013 1:11:04 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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Since when does an effing budget deal get to mess with Senate rulez?


57 posted on 12/12/2013 1:21:49 AM PST by cynwoody
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They are trying to rush this stuff through now because they realize that 2014 will be a disaster for then liberals. Immigration “reform” is already dead.

With 2014, people will start to think about the elections, and also ObamaCare will be kicking in. The Liberals will be running for cover. Their best hope is to push through legislation before the end of the year.


58 posted on 12/12/2013 1:50:41 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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