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Odds of Alien Life 'Very High,' House Panel Hears
Breitbart News ^ | 12/05/2013 | Breitbart News

Posted on 12/08/2013 8:32:23 PM PST by Carbonsteel

The likelihood of life on other planets is "very high," a planetary scientist told a House committee in a hearing some Democrats chided as evading U.S. issues.

"The chance that there's a planet like Earth out there with life on it is very high," Massachusetts Institute of Technology planetary science and physics Professor Sara Seager told the House Science Committee.

"The question is: Is there life near here, in our neighborhood of stars? We think the chances are good," she said, answering a question from Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, who asked: "Do you think there's life out there, and are they studying us? And what do they think about New York City?"

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To: FredZarguna
Certainly not the worst moment ever in science fiction. [Sadly, all too typical.]

Well, it is filmed science fiction, which certainly has lower standards than written sf when it comes to the "science" part.

And in any case, episodes I through III are far, far worse!

61 posted on 12/08/2013 10:08:55 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell
I think The Return of The Jedi is in that list as well.
62 posted on 12/08/2013 10:11:45 PM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
So are you an atheist/materialist, or do you just believe that spiritual/paranormal entities would not be so vulgar as to manifest as UFOs or aliens?

The former, not the latter.

(although I am charmed by the idea of a demon sufficiently cultured and refined that pretending to be an alien is beneath him)

63 posted on 12/08/2013 10:13:13 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: FredZarguna
I think The Return of The Jedi is in that list as well.

There were troubling signs in it to be sure; numerous belching scenes, Chewbacca doing a Tarzan yell, and Ewoks in general. Overall, though, I'd keep it in the "good" list of Star Wars films. It's still far better than any of the prequels, warts and all.

64 posted on 12/08/2013 10:15:49 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

That so-called alien encounters have the same basis as supposed contact with supernatural entities etc... Makes a lot more sense than being actual alien encounters.

Now, keep in mind that is true whether or not supernatural entities are real or not.

In other words, the UFO load comes from the same source as the magic fairy load etc...


65 posted on 12/08/2013 10:20:27 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Kip Russell
"The former, not the latter."

That's an interesting reply (atheist but not materialist). Perhaps it hinges on one's definition of "god."
66 posted on 12/08/2013 10:21:03 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Kip Russell
...if even a small fraction of those had technology comparable to ours (or significantly higher) I think we would have detected their radio emissions by now.

Who says they're using radio to communicate? I've long thought that a space faring civilization would develop communication technologies superior to radio. Perhaps using light, or even some phenomena that we're not familiar with yet.

As far as their terrestrial broadcasts, I suspect that the signals are too dispersed to be more than background hiss when they reach us.

There's increasing evidence that subsurface oceans of liquid water are downright common in our solar system, even in bodies as small as Ceres and Enceladus!

Yep. The next several decades are going to be some of the most interesting the history of human exploration. Hope I get to see just a bit of it before I go :-)

67 posted on 12/08/2013 10:21:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I suppose if you believe the universe was created in a random manner.


68 posted on 12/08/2013 10:22:03 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Steve_Seattle
That's an interesting reply (atheist but not materialist). Perhaps it hinges on one's definition of "god."

I apologize for the misunderstanding. I meant the former as in, "atheist and materialist".

69 posted on 12/08/2013 10:24:28 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ifinnegan
In other words, the UFO load comes from the same source as the magic fairy load etc...

Exactly so...and I give equal credence to each.

70 posted on 12/08/2013 10:26:06 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Windflier
Perhaps interspecies communication is more difficult than we think.

We haven't done too well with other earth species. E.g., the work we've done so far with orcas seems to only scratch the surface.

71 posted on 12/08/2013 10:26:50 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: ifinnegan
That so-called alien encounters have the same basis as supposed contact with supernatural entities etc... Makes a lot more sense than being actual alien encounters.

All depends upon your point of view.

I've never personally seen an extraterrestrial, but I don't rule out the possibility that other intelligent species exist elsewhere in the universe, and that they may be sufficiently advanced to be able to travel the cosmos.

I've also never seen anything that I could identify as an intelligently controlled craft of non-earthly origin, but I have seen some things that are just shy of that. I still have no explanation for what they were, but I can tell you one thing. We don't have anything that can do what I saw.

72 posted on 12/08/2013 10:29:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kip Russell

“In other words, the UFO load comes from the same source as the magic fairy load etc...”

“”Exactly so...and I give equal credence to each.””

That was the point the earlier poster made, though, by quoting Vallee.

But you dismissed it.


73 posted on 12/08/2013 10:31:07 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Kip Russell

That’s a fairytale. The Neanderthal was the absolute apex predator of ice-age Europe and his DNA was halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee. His ribcage was conical as are those of the great apes, his footprints are apelike, his face was prognathic as are those of the apes and his skull is a very good fit for an ape’s profile and a bad fit for one of ours. Cro Magnon needles are common while nobody has ever found a Neanderthal needle; that’s because a creature with a 6” ice-age fur coat doesn’t NEED needles.


74 posted on 12/08/2013 10:31:36 PM PST by varmintman
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To: Kip Russell
episodes I through III are far, far worse!

Big time. I wish George Lucas had never made them. I think they took something away from the original trilogy of films. My kids like them, but I think they might as well be a different movie.

75 posted on 12/08/2013 10:31:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dfwgator

I didn’t see any proof of life on other planets in Genesis.

And I didn’t see any place in there where god said he didn’t create life on other worlds either...

Didn’t see anything in there like this:

And Thus spoke God “I hath only created life on this planet only and non of the other trillions worlds in the universe I created....”


76 posted on 12/08/2013 10:34:03 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Windflier
Who says they're using radio to communicate? I've long thought that a space faring civilization would develop communication technologies superior to radio. Perhaps using light, or even some phenomena that we're not familiar with yet.

Perhaps so, but surely some of 10,000+ civilizations would use radio.

As far as their terrestrial broadcasts, I suspect that the signals are too dispersed to be more than background hiss when they reach us.

Narrowband radio broadcasts are detectable with current technology at a distance of hundreds of light years or more.

77 posted on 12/08/2013 10:34:12 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: dfwgator
I suppose if you believe the universe was created in a random manner.

Quite the opposite. I believe that the Creator didn't stop with this one little mud ball. Life is the most incredible miracle in all the universe. I believe that it's scattered throughout the cosmos.

78 posted on 12/08/2013 10:36:02 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ifinnegan
But you dismissed it.

I dismiss those who explain UFO sightings by asserting that they are aliens and I dismiss those who explain UFO sightings by asserting that they are supernatural.

Neither explanation is credible.

79 posted on 12/08/2013 10:36:51 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ifinnegan

Congresscritters know best.

Haven’t you figured it out by now?


80 posted on 12/08/2013 10:36:55 PM PST by 353FMG
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