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Members of Congress: Abolish IRS
World Net Daily ^ | 19 November, 2013 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/19/2013 8:24:49 AM PST by Errant

It happens rarely. A taxpayer challenging the constitutional basis for the income tax wins in court, defeating the Internal Revenue Service, such as in the case brought by the late Tom Cryer, who was acquitted on a charge of failing to pay $73,000 to the government.

Now three members of Congress want to make that result the norm through a bill that would repeal the 16th Amendment, effectively canceling federal income taxes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abolishirs; corruption; irs; ripoff; tax
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To: central_va

“A sensible import tariff policy could replace the tax revenue from income taxes.”

Reduce government to what it should be per the Constitution, and we won’t need to “replace” revenue from income taxes.


21 posted on 11/19/2013 8:51:25 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Excellent Point!


22 posted on 11/19/2013 8:53:46 AM PST by Errant
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To: PLD

Not only abnolish it, but any employee of the IRS that has been involved in ANY criminal activity or unconstitutional activity while employed goes to jail.

In other words, we need to build more prisons!


23 posted on 11/19/2013 8:54:27 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Errant

Once again, Congress is hiding behind the IRS as the cause of all the taxation problems in this country. You, Congress, wrote and passed these ridiculous laws. It is you who screwed this country, not the IRS.


24 posted on 11/19/2013 8:55:13 AM PST by GeorgeTex (Obama-The Ultimate Terrorist Weapon.)
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To: canuck_conservative

The irony of Russia’s flat tax is that the oligarchy had the power to impose it. They realize, just as the Heritage Foundation, that a simple flat tax will spur economic growth. Unfortunately, OUR oligarchy of career politicians, crony capitalists, media elites, and leftist professors all benefit from the complexity of the tax code. Farmers, manufacturers, pharmas, health care, solar, oil—the list is endless. Incumbency is the single most corrupting influence in our entire political system. Term limits is the only answer.


25 posted on 11/19/2013 8:57:44 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: GeorgeTex

They also delegated regulatory power that they should have kept as legislative power.


26 posted on 11/19/2013 8:59:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Errant; Mr. Lucky
How can it be when it doesn't make national news?

This was really my (poorly couched) point... how did this not hit every news program and twitter account across the country?

It would seem that even the news media fears what might happen... and I am guessing that the IRS has opted to let this one quietly be closed on its own: for had they lost on appeal, then the scope of this case would indeed be larger and easier to replicate... even without a jury.

27 posted on 11/19/2013 9:01:03 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: alancarp

Agree


28 posted on 11/19/2013 9:02:46 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant
Tariffs wouldn't bring industry back to America.

They would turn what industry America still has into just another component of the bloated welfare state. There's simply no need to compete when you have a captive market. That's one of the reasons why the Soviet car industry wasn't the wonder of the world.

Tariffs would also give the Government the ability to choose winners and losers in the domestic marketplace, allowing them to effectively enforce unionization and the rest of their whacked-out agenda

If you hand tariff power to the Government then your most important competitive act suddenly isn't to work better, faster, cheaper - it's to lobby the Government for interventions that suit your company.

Because once you allow Government to place a foot on the hose of production, negotiating with that foot becomes more important than anything else.

Finally - tariffs breach Freedom of Association. Why would we force Americans to buy something they don't want? If a foreign car is better, faster or cheaper than a GM Volt, by what right would we interfere?


If you truly want to bring industry back to America then remove the barriers to industry in America. Capital goes where it is treated best.

Reduce Corporate taxation. Also, simplify taxation. Tax fulfillment costs have become a significant burden on smaller businesses.

Reduce the vast panoply of EPA and other environmental regulations. Companies aren't going to relocate to a country where wood stoves can be declared illegal.

Remove arbitrary, vindictive Government (we all remember Gibson's guitars, I hope).

Get rid of Obamacare. America isn't France. Companies need employees to work more than 29 hours a week, and that's only a small piece of the anti-competitive madness pouring out from Obamacare.

Well, hope this was helpful.

29 posted on 11/19/2013 9:06:04 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: GeorgeTex
It is you who screwed this country, not the IRS.

Agree the IRS, for the most part, is just doing their job. I put the biggest blame on the Congress and Senate of 1913 when the income tax and Fed was established.

It's up to the people and the current leaders in DC to fix it. Kill the funding and the federal beast will necessarily return to its cage.

30 posted on 11/19/2013 9:07:02 AM PST by Errant
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To: agere_contra

In the 50’s industry needed government.

Now,

Government desperatly needs industry.

Industry no longer needs government, in fact they can pretty much buy any governemnt they need. ExxonMobil’s “state department” is far more efficient then the US department of (screw ups) state.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 9:08:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Errant

What? get rid of the agency that acts as a giant welfare agency, taking money from those who earn it and passing it to those who vote for more money? The agency that keeps people off welfare by giving them a welfare check disguised as a job? The agency that hounds and harasses innocent hard-working citizens?

never happen.


32 posted on 11/19/2013 9:15:55 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: agere_contra; central_va; rockinqsranch
Sound analysis, but the keyword included with the suggestion of tariffs was "sensible". Of course that would be meaningless unless some limits were placed upon the maximum tariffs that could be levied on any single item, let's say.

Any tax plan needs careful consideration and much public debate. For certain, the boot of the federal government should be removed from the neck of average citizens. The states should ALWAYS be the conduit between the two, unless it is a matter of a state abusing rights of citizens as granted by the Constitution.

33 posted on 11/19/2013 9:17:42 AM PST by Errant
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To: Joe Boucher
Then they'd all have to go get REAL work ... bucking hay ... plowing fields, welding steel, sweeping floors ... building factory's ... BUILDING something ... MANUFACTURING ...

Holy prosperity Batman!

We might even become a super wealthy, super power if THAT happened !

34 posted on 11/19/2013 9:18:47 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: jsanders2001
“This is the only way you can effectively cripple a tyrant; remove his funding sources. The liberals have kept the consevatives up against the ropes so long it’s refreshing to see them go on the defensive for a change.”

I do believe you meant to say “offensive” in place of “defensive” since this is what most of these RINO’s have been doing on the defensive, instead of taking it to the liberal socialist.

The best defense is a great offense!

35 posted on 11/19/2013 9:19:00 AM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: I want the USA back
never happen

Never my friend is a VERY long time... ;) Eventually it will collapse under its own weight.

36 posted on 11/19/2013 9:20:51 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant
The states should ALWAYS be the conduit between the two

Well +1 to that and well said.

State-level subsidiarity in taxes would lead back to that thing which is the essential genius of The United States: competition in government.

Don't like the bloated government and high taxes of State A? Move to State B. Simple and ingenious.

37 posted on 11/19/2013 9:22:38 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: agere_contra
Don't like the bloated government and high taxes of State A? Move to State B. Simple and ingenious.

Amen!

38 posted on 11/19/2013 9:25:22 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

bkmk


39 posted on 11/19/2013 9:28:24 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: alancarp

Jury verdicts aren’t subject to appeal.


40 posted on 11/19/2013 9:34:03 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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