Posted on 11/18/2013 10:48:36 AM PST by QT3.14
The Marine Corps may have to change its physical standards in order to put females in positions to one day lead infantry platoons in combat.
Both the Marine Corps and the Army continue to wrestle with the mandate that former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta issued in January, directing the U.S. military to open hundreds of combat-arms jobs that have been closed to female servicemembers.
So far, the Marines have been out ahead.
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Hey, the Obamadork is president.
Obviously Columbia, Harvard, and our poor screwed country not only lowered their standards, they flushed them down the Obama-pliance.
And - of course the Marines will be forced to change the standards. After all, progressives and their supporters long ago realized that they could not live up to any standards that existed not that long ago.
I forgot to add to my previous comment that there are women who can meet the existing standard...and I’ll be they’re a bit peeved that those standards will be lowered...to the detriment of the respect they presently have.
I was talking to friend of mine who was attending the Indianapolis Police Department training academy and he had just finished his fitness evaluations. I asked him how many pull ups he had to do and he said none. It turns out that so few female recruits can do a single pull up that they just eliminated them from the fitness standards. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the same thing is true for the military.
<< Women can be excellent shooters >>
As a firearms instructor, I find that women tend to be naturally better shooters than men, and with minimal training can out shoot most men. Can’t tell if it’s nature or nurture. Male shooters require a lot of “unlearning” since they seemed to have learned gun handling solely from watching TV and movies :-)
If we weren’t saturated with non-serving folks, everyone would know what the abbreviations stand for. “Illiterate bastards” or just draft-dodgers?
Easy gents, the article is asking if PFT standards need to be changed not MOS specific standards. Quoted from the article:
“It’s unclear if the Marine Corps will decide to require males and females to perform the same PFT standards, but officials said that the service has no plans to lower the physical requirements of Marine infantry training.
“Those physically-demanding tasks are performance-based standards that all Marines in that MOS must be able to perform,” Krebs said. “So whether you are male or whether you are female, that’s the standard and that is what we are going to hold it to.”
The Marine Corps has long had different PFT standards for men and women. What I took from the article is the fact that the Marine Corps is looking into requiring women to meet the same PFT standards as the men. This debate has gone on in the Corps for as long as I can remember. The Marine Corps is in no way looking to water down MOS specific standards. If a woman can pass the course doing the same exact things as the men, then more power to her. There will be a few who can do this, but the majority are going to fail. Hell 25% of men fail to meet the standards it takes to become a Marine Corps infantryman.
Luckily, combat is much less physically demanding these days..
Wonder why they came up with any standards at all? After all, how physically demanding was Tarawa or Hue City or Fallujah?
The men being led by these women will soon spot the weakness of the leader. When they do she loses respect and cannot lead.
Putting women in charge of combat Marines or combat Special Forces is a stupid act.;
Goodbye advanced infantry training, hello rhythmic gymnastics.
This ought to work out fine once we are able to legislate reduced intensity of combat by our enemies.
The weirdest thing to me was Airborne school. The men had to do 10 chin-ups before eating...so every mess hall at the Airborne school had a chin-up bar. The purpose of this was to ensure you were strong enough to ‘slip’, which is pulling part of the risers, to steer...done on the older parachutes (T10C).
Right next to each chin-up bar was a pathetic bar sitting around 2 feet off the ground. The women would lie on their back and pull themselves up.
It made no sense - the entire point of the exercise was to be strong enough to handle things, all by your lonesome, in the air. But that’s not important for women?
Another one that kind of ticked me off. Before we jumped, the ‘Jumpmaster’ would inspect us, physically touching important parts of the chute, and running hands along the harness, to make sure the straps weren’t crossed and set to amputate your genitals. The female Jumpmaster - didn’t run the hands along the straps. Again, if this is important enough to check...important enough to uncomfortably have another man touch you in that area...isn’t it just as important, when you have a female jumpmaster?
That kind of stuff drove me crazy.
Don’t worry about this at all. All our enemies (except our enemy within) will go easy on the powder puffs in arms.
They will shoot marshmallow bullets and will use Explosive IUDs rather than IEDs.
Put all the fags and power puffs in the same division and have them deployed to Canada to help them guard Polar Bears.
I take it you’ve never been in the Army. Everything is abbreviated, to the point of absurdity.
News flash: we haven’t had a draft in the US for four decades.
Fire departments have seen this, seek rare women at their age peak and peak of physical health and fitness, they get trainers, good diets, advice, encouragement, and then on their best day, they squeak through the physical tests.
Those women have no reserves to draw on, no excess strength and endurance, what happens after 10 years of hard living and aging, What do they have left after 6 months in a jungle living on canned peaches and cigarettes, little sleep and constant stress?
If I was an OpFor officer or sergeant, I would instruct my troops to try to identify women in US units and shoot them first. This will create terrible morale problems for the US units, and cause them to lose focus and make mistakes. Or, instruct the troops to gang-rape women troops, mess them up physically, then return them to the unit. Same problem: it creates severe impact to unit morale.
Again, with emphasis, is is monumentally stupid to put women in combat units.
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