1 posted on
11/14/2013 6:09:40 AM PST by
grundle
To: grundle
One thing we know for sure about ObamaScam, it’s very, very anti-American.
2 posted on
11/14/2013 6:13:07 AM PST by
FlingWingFlyer
(Millions are losing their healthcare thanks to ObamaScam! What a country!!!)
To: grundle
3 posted on
11/14/2013 6:13:08 AM PST by
AAABEST
(Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
To: grundle
couldn’t a married couple just file their taxes separate?
5 posted on
11/14/2013 6:15:09 AM PST by
MNDude
To: grundle
6 posted on
11/14/2013 6:16:38 AM PST by
MissMagnolia
(You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
To: grundle
Not working pays more than working.
Now there is an incentive to get divorced over marriage.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength
8 posted on
11/14/2013 6:21:20 AM PST by
Red in Blue PA
(When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
To: grundle
That's just the beginning. Assume that couple with children doesn't marry at all and the babymommy has two kids and a part-time job. She should probably pay babydaddy $400 or so a month rent to keep it legal, and claim not to know who the father is. She'll get subsidized health insurance or Medicaid, food stamps, a rent subsidy, a heating allowance and an Obamaphone. Because she's a struggling, working single mom just doing what she needs to do to get by, she'll stay under the radar for welfare dogooder interference. She'll get money back when she files federal taxes, and if he's under $30,000 or so his taxes will be minimal, probably even an insurance subsidy. If they were smart enough to avoid college loans, they're really well off...as long as they don't advertise with a big house or expensive car; just stay under the radar. It all falls apart if they get married or he identifies as the father.
I wouldn't do it; I'm of a different generation, more like an alternative reality. I do have to say though, the economics of this scenerio is compelling, and I can't imagine how anyone stops gaming the system once they buy in. It isn't even fraud.
9 posted on
11/14/2013 6:27:23 AM PST by
grania
To: grundle
10 posted on
11/14/2013 6:28:44 AM PST by
Jane Long
(While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
To: grundle
11 posted on
11/14/2013 6:29:26 AM PST by
FreeAtlanta
(Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
To: grundle
Deconstructing America, one family at a time! :)
12 posted on
11/14/2013 6:29:27 AM PST by
SMARTY
("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
To: grundle
Why does obama not want gays who are married to get benefits?
13 posted on
11/14/2013 6:31:28 AM PST by
Red in Blue PA
(When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
To: grundle
“...Erin Hannigan of Organizing for Action's ‘Truth Team’ bragged about” this “cool calculator” showing how Obamacare’s “tax credits” work...”
This is how you do to ALL of America what has already been fully accomplished in minority families!!
There is no other or better way to reduce ALL the U.S. to a totally feral society!!
15 posted on
11/14/2013 6:32:32 AM PST by
SMARTY
("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
To: grundle
Message to Republicans in the US House: Get your hands off Obamacare, stop trying to fix it, LEAVE IT ALONE!!! It is a pure disaster for the Democrats so stop trying to bail them out. Stand back and let them wallow in it, turn on each other and make it even a bigger disaster.
To: grundle
I had already figured this out. Hubby and I pay $1k a mnth for insurance now. He has a sizeable retirement income. I have a $1k per mnth annuity. If we divorced I would qualify for Medicaid or $0 a mnth insurance thru subsidies.
If we lost our insurance the exchange quotes $1200 per mnth premiums with a large deductible and almost $19k out of pocket not counting premiums. Jeez!!!
If we lost our insurance I would actually have to think about divorce.
20 posted on
11/14/2013 6:46:23 AM PST by
sheana
To: grundle
The calculator linked to in the article does not yield the results noted in the article. There is no place even to enter the age of the insured parties so I can’t see how he can make the claims he’s making about 40 year olds and 60 year olds.
I dislike Obamacare, but we make our case better with truthful claims that are verifiable than with claims that are not verifiable or worse, false. Perhaps they’ve changed the calculator since the article was published in late September.
To: grundle
There is also some weird deal in the bill that can raise your child support payments automatically to something like 50-75% of your income. So divorced with children may not work like this article says.
25 posted on
11/14/2013 7:42:28 AM PST by
rey
To: grundle; mickie; flaglady47; pax_et_bonum; oswegodeee
Here in Florida there's countless retired older couples living together without benefit of marriage. Mostly widows and widowers in late marriages who have lived this way for years and are as happy as clams. The reason has always been mostly for inheritance purposes....his family/her family, fewer inheritance legal problems and unhappy heirs.
Now it looks like a new reason (ObamaCare) may hasten this form of unlicensed connubial bliss, or hasten calculated divorces. To middle-class married retirees, something like $11,000 or $15,000 insurance premiums every 12 months is a budget breaker, a life-changer...and a quick road to the poor house.
If Obama and his Merry Marxmen have their way, more radical/negative changes in what we perceive "marriage" to be will embedded in our society.
Leni
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