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To: Bryanw92
Eventually, the goal would be to push the ideological Progressives of both parties to merge into one and then we can start having the real debate that this country needs: Progressives vs Nationalists.

Wrong debate; IMO, what we need to debate is collectivism* v. liberty-ism.

(* AKA Statism.)

18 posted on 11/11/2013 2:52:52 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

>>Wrong debate; IMO, what we need to debate is collectivism* v. liberty-ism.

You need to do some reading. Transnational Progressivism is the catch-all for all forms of statism in the American culture. It is the Marxism that allows for private property so you can’t call it communism. It is the fascism that isn’t nationalist. In the US, the Progressive movement predates communism, socialism, and fascism. It is also the ideology that gave us the federal reserve and income taxes.

In the conservative movement, we need to learn what the real enemy is. If we attack bits and pieces of Progressivism, the Progs just say, “we’re not x-ism because we permit y”.

They call themselves Progressive so we don’t need to assign a name to them that they can refute.


32 posted on 11/11/2013 3:26:16 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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